mcdavis

I am being told that the production slot is July. I have just a week or two before lock and the system will not take my order with buckets.

The dealer will lose the allocation if they allow the order to stay in V100....so I am screwed by Porsche for making the option unavailable...my dealer will have take my car away and sell a non-bucket car to someone else...

I'm extremely unhappy by this. Why would Porsche force a specific option set on folks in order to be able to keep their orders or potentially lose customers as they have to back out of the sales?

Crazy...

neanicu

Sad but true.

Although I have never been a fan of any dealer,I can't seem to fault them in this situation.
If you blame Porsche,they will dump it on the supplier(maybe it's true). I wonder if they're running low on bucket shells or cushions. Maybe they've been painting too many Elantras in Sapphire Blue...I don't know...
What I see happening here...and it's just a hunch,I have no way of knowing for sure : because of the limited supply,PAG is allowing some dealers to enter bucket orders(with a delay in production of course),while completely rejecting others. Perhaps the same thing is happening with Sapphire Blue...

matttheboatman

Wow, reading these posts has me thinking...."If I can't have LWBs then I definitely want them!"

Dealer called - said my build date has moved from Nov to July (presumably because no LWBs currently on order).

I'm still undecided. The Pros on the LWBs are; they look great, and belong with the GT4 car.

The cons are; the cost - LWBs will add about $6,000 because it is the cost of the seat plus the Carbon Fiber trim which is a must with these seats; and my wife will hate them; and require hoisting in and out of the seat; and they flex a lot; and they don't adjust; (don't know if I can fit in the car at 6"3" with a helmet); and they have virtually no shoulder support unless you use the harness.

But since I can't have them, I DEFINITELY WANT THEM!

Archimedes

Agree. I was considering ordering a Spyder before I decided to buy a Carrera S and I had less than zero interest in the LWBs. See more negatives than positives, but to each his own. Personal preference.

Archimedes

Simple, because they don't have the LWBs and they can't stop production just because of the shortage of one part. They're gonna build the cars the way they can and sell them to whomever wants them. Then when they get the LWBs, they'll offer them, assuming that it really is a shortage and not a flaw in the seats that wasn't caught until pre production.

il pirata

The big issue with LWBs may be that they cannot catch up before 981.2.

katmeho

Bingo.

Those of you who are on the fence, have them transfer your allocation to my dealership who still has only gotten 1 damn car. I'd take it and get buckets in the RS when that time comes.

GTautoDesign

I wonder if Porsche would allow the scenario of getting an allocation without the buckets then when the issue is resolved shipping them to dealers and having the dealers install.

neanicu

No.

Your only option is buying them from a Porsche dealer at 4x the price from the factory.

csbear

I think that's what he means. Buy the seats at the $5K price now, but have them installed at the dealer at a later date when they are available.

I was thinking the same.... but then what happens to the used Sport Seats?

mm1

Calling my dealer tomorrow but I would bet the same for me. Originally I was an October delivery.

Also, I HAD no interest but everyone says I should get them except a few people. My issues are very similar; wife will HATE them, can't turn off the airbags for short kid trips, I'm 6'2" and bet I'd fit with helmet but will only do light track time. I'm sticking to no LWB but doesn't look like I had a choice anyways.

Maybe this will turn into a full out track car but then I'll buy recaros.

neanicu

From what I've been reading on the GT3 forum you can't do that. You can't buy them for 5K now and then have the seats shipped from Germany and install. Unless you have a very special relationship with your dealer so they can arrange that happening for you somehow. I don't know...
All I know is that you can buy them through the Parts Department at a later date and at a totally different price-from what I've heard : between 15-20K $.

fishing

What a mess. I hope all this somehow gets worked out so those wanting the LWB will all get them with only a minimal delay.

DeerHunter

Option pricing doesn't reflect the cost of that option - it reflects the cost difference between the standard item and the option. For the sake of argument, let's say that the standard buckets cost Porsche $2,500 (you don't pay this directly, as it's baked into the base price of the car). If the LWBs are a $5K option, that means they're actually worth $7,500 ($2.5K "baked-in" plus $5K).

Of course, you can never buy parts for the same price as when they're sold with an entire car, which is why they will cost at least double at the parts counter.

Mike981S

Correct. I confirmed with PCNA. Details see here: http://www.planet-9.com/981-cayman-b...tml#post949559

I expect they just had so little non-bucket seat orders that they started having idling build slots. So they moved people forward (I also got a call early this week that my Q4 build suddenly becomes available in July, but only if I don't go with LWB. I did my investigation and decided to stay with my Q4 slot. Which means that the next person in the waiting list will be lucky (she apparently will not spec LWB anyway).

I wager right now that while the factory is closed for the summer break, Recaro can catch up with the demand. We will see...

I asked if I could to exactly that. Get an option to basically buy them at cost. I was told that it is not possible. If I don't get them in my Q4 build, I will try to negotiate (but it is a hard place to be in if their waiting list is 20 people deep).