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Old 01-15-2019, 07:45 PM
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I recently scooped up a nice GT4, and I freaking love the car. But, in order to qualify for a new mortgage and keep my old house as a rental, I need to shed some debt. I will have a renter in my old place paying 10% more than my mortgage+taxes, but apparently the mortgage underwriter deducts 30% off the gross rental income, which puts a bit of debt on my books. That, in conjunction with an zero-balance HELOC (which is counted as debt whether I owe money or not) pushes me toward a slightly riskier rate. Being conservative, I don't mind shedding the GT4 and getting another down the line. I really want to keep this house as an investment; I figure I will net $20k a year after fees and deductions, and that assumes no asset appreciation. This is a popular area and I expect housing to appreciate long-term: the average rate is 5.1% from 2003 till now. A few years of that, and I can buy whatever GT4 is current at the time!

Anyways, I just dropped by Park Place Porsche; what do you think of this trade-in offer?

2016 GT4
$104k build
full leather
9,700 miles
buckets (super clean! no bolster wear)
Existing CPO. No overrevs.
Good tires, no issues, full front end clear bra, no rock chips, just detailed: showroom ready the same hour I drop it off.

Offer is $70k. Does that sound right?

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Nope...that's a lowball offer...
Old 01-15-2019, 08:10 PM
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That’s not a low ball offer - it’s an insult.

As a data point I was considering trading in my 2016 Cayman GTS, 15K miles, clean, $90K build and was offered $68.5K. That offer was made in October and my car needed rear tires and was due for its 2 year service.
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Retail is probably 90-95 a fire sale to dealer is 80 id push for 85. carl
Old 01-15-2019, 08:26 PM
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I’ll give you $75k sight unseen.

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Well they have to keep the doors open too... But do they really need to make $15-$20k on every car?

I think they are ten grand off. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by Mr Michael B
Well they have to keep the doors open too... But do they really need to make $15-$20k on every car?

I think they are ten grand off. Sorry.
More like $25k on this one! It is CPO'd already.

Then again, they had 3 customers and about 20 people working the sales floor.
Old 01-15-2019, 08:59 PM
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Something doesn't sound right. You need to unload to get your finances in order. Sounds more like "what would you buy it for?" to me.

If I had to make a guess their # would include CPO cost, replacing tires (they don't want old tires regardless of tread depth), windshield (any minor blemish/ding/chip counts against), rotors (visible cracks - rotors are known for that), etc, etc, etc.

As is typical with trade ins option never figure into the # on trade in but get hyped on resell.

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More like $25k on this one! It is CPO'd already.

Then again, they had 3 customers and about 20 people working the sales floor.
Sounds like ou bought it used all ready but are looking to base your #s on MSRP. What was the difference when you bought it? Thats what you should base it on.
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Is that a trade in offer or a purchase from you offer? Either way, I agree... sounds like a way low offer.
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I want to say a forum member just got around 85k for his 25k mile ~110k MSRP car. I was offered ~90k on my 111k MSRP car with 10k miles.
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Originally Posted by ExMB
Something doesn't sound right. You need to unload to get your finances in order. Sounds more like "what would you buy it for?" to me.

If I had to make a guess their # would include CPO cost, replacing tires (they don't want old tires regardless of tread depth), windshield (any minor blemish/ding/chip counts against), rotors (visible cracks - rotors are known for that), etc, etc, etc.

As is typical with trade ins option never figure into the # on trade in but get hyped on resell.

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Sounds like ou bought it used all ready but are looking to base your #s on MSRP. What was the difference when you bought it? Thats what you should base it on.
MSRP is $104k. The car is CPO'd. Rear tires are good, but maybe at 5/32, might need replacing. No track time, brakes are great! Windshield is perfect; the car is basically perfect. I know the pricing is way off as the guy I bought it from got a trade-in price of $88k just 6 months ago. He didn't like the dealer he was buying his RS from and gave it to me for $89k. I get it; slow time of year, but $18,000 less in 6 months? I put 1,800 miles on her.

The same dealer has the same car, but with a 6,000 fewer miles, priced at $102,900.

I can unload the car here in 2 weeks for $85k. Heck, I got an offer above for $5k more, just in this thread!!!!

BAT brings $80k minimum with a clean Overrev.

Perhaps they are just used to dealing with rich idiots who could care less about trade-in values?
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Originally Posted by Space Coast GT3
Is that a trade in offer or a purchase from you offer? Either way, I agree... sounds like a way low offer.
it was one and the same.
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Originally Posted by Five12Free
I want to say a forum member just got around 85k for his 25k mile ~110k MSRP car. I was offered ~90k on my 111k MSRP car with 10k miles.
Yeah, I think I can sell it here for $85k without too much trouble! $70k is silly: the Spyder 981 that was posted F/S in another thread here on the 10th at $71k had 41,000 miles, barely any info, and he had people lining up to take the car off his hands!
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Originally Posted by Five12Free
I want to say a forum member just got around 85k for his 25k mile ~110k MSRP car. I was offered ~90k on my 111k MSRP car with 10k miles.
wow, how did you get to $111k with steel brakes?


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