718 GT4 Allocation chances?
08-12-2018, 07:04 PM
#16
Drifting
Perhaps you're looking at social media from the perspective of how Mustang and Corvette buyers use it. I don't think Porsche gets (or would ever get) sales from somebody on social media showing off a Porsche. By "Porsche gets a lot of social media attention," I didn't mean bloggers talking about car shows; I meant celebrities of all sorts being seen in Porsches, races being won by them, etc. And given that any dealer could already sell way, way more GT cars than they can get allocation for, I dunno. But like I said, maybe your dealer is different than the ones I've dealt with over the years. At any rate, hope you get one if that's your desire!
Cheers.
Cheers.
08-12-2018, 08:32 PM
#17
Three Wheelin'
I think you’d be surprised actually. Porsche has a relatively small representation on social media from what I see, and trust me, I look haha. Porsche’s (from my POV) are more reserved, people aren’t out there doing crazy stuff with them, they aren’t easily modified, they don’t sell in the numbers of Corvettes, Camaro’s, Mustangs, etc, and don’t get the attention of Supercars such as McLarens, Lambo’s, etc. They seem to be in an odd grey area which doesn’t get much social media presence. The GT3RS and GT2RS get good attention yes, but that’s mainly it. So I know my dealership does like having their owners drive their cars, advertise for the dealership, attend events and such.
As for the feeling slow part, I am aware. Unfortunately no production car short of a 720S will feel fast to me anymore. I tracked a 570S and 488GTB last weekend and both of them felt painfully slow to me. But that’s okay, I’ll slowly adjust back to it I’m sure just like I adjusted to the ever increasing power of my current car. Going fast is expensive, I’m looking for something that’s a bit cheaper modification wise where I’m not tempted to keep adding power haha. Get back into more road course stuff instead of drag racing. Then might get back into a Mid-engine C8 Z06 Corvette a couple years down the road if I want to go fast again.
adding 100hp to my ZR1 was dirt cheap....doing that to a NA flat 6 not so much....$30k for the BGB stage 3... and as you say, will feel "painfully slow" compared too Macca and Fiat, never mind the Vettes you were referencing.
08-13-2018, 01:24 AM
#18
Drifting
Hey guys! I know a lot of you have experience with getting an allocation with Porsche, so maybe you could help me out. I've never dealt with this, as its always been unlimited runs for my cars haha.
Basically, I have read the allocations for the 718 GT4 started month ago. What are my chances that I could get one, without paying an absurd ADM. I leased a 911 S in 2010 from my premier dealer, probably doesn't help. I'm determined to get one, but is it even possible? If I perhaps made I deal that I purchase a 718 and trade it in for the GT4 order would this work?
Anyway, just looking for some options as I really want to get my hands on a 718 GT4, but not pay a over the top ADM.
Basically, I have read the allocations for the 718 GT4 started month ago. What are my chances that I could get one, without paying an absurd ADM. I leased a 911 S in 2010 from my premier dealer, probably doesn't help. I'm determined to get one, but is it even possible? If I perhaps made I deal that I purchase a 718 and trade it in for the GT4 order would this work?
Anyway, just looking for some options as I really want to get my hands on a 718 GT4, but not pay a over the top ADM.
08-13-2018, 05:22 PM
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So on a GT4 I’d only desire to do like wheels, some carbon fiber bits maybe, and headers/exhaust and that’s it. That was the logic I was using for “cheaper to mod” haha. I’m at 840whp with my C7 and still have a wishlist of like $15K+ in mods even though I’m selling it next year. It’s never ending in that car.
08-13-2018, 05:32 PM
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Perhaps you're looking at social media from the perspective of how Mustang and Corvette buyers use it. I don't think Porsche gets (or would ever get) sales from somebody on social media showing off a Porsche. By "Porsche gets a lot of social media attention," I didn't mean bloggers talking about car shows; I meant celebrities of all sorts being seen in Porsches, races being won by them, etc. And given that any dealer could already sell way, way more GT cars than they can get allocation for, I dunno. But like I said, maybe your dealer is different than the ones I've dealt with over the years. At any rate, hope you get one if that's your desire!
Cheers.
Cheers.
And I am in no way implying they need to be popular or anything, because yes, they will never have an issue selling GT cars haha. There will always be line ups for them. Their owners just typically aren’t out shouting at the rest of the world about them online. In no way am I meaning to insult the Porsche brand, I love them, I am trying to buy one, and they are the gold standard for sports cars. Was merely making the point that they do have a relatively smaller social media presence compared to most manufacturers. I find it difficult to find good content on them on Instagram and YouTube, where you have no such issues for many other vehicles and brands.
Any other bigger Porsche YouTube channels out there? Main one I seem to follow for example is Nick Murray who just kinda vlogs with his 911.
08-13-2018, 07:48 PM
#22
I have a funny feeling the next GT4 is going to be easier to get than people think. So many shiny pennies out there now, and more on the way. And the bull run in the economy is likely to be waning by the time they start to hit dealers.
08-13-2018, 11:54 PM
#23
Originally Posted by Archimedes
I have a funny feeling the next GT4 is going to be easier to get than people think. So many shiny pennies out there now, and more on the way. And the bull run in the economy is likely to be waning by the time they start to hit dealers.
08-13-2018, 11:58 PM
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08-14-2018, 12:03 AM
#25
Three Wheelin'
Im looking at social media from a popularity and impact POV. And my point was simply that Porsche’s aren’t “popular” vehicles (or in large quantity) on social media, and don’t have the impact of Exotics. They do very well in racing yes, but that type of racing is not very popular on social media.
And I am in no way implying they need to be popular or anything, because yes, they will never have an issue selling GT cars haha. There will always be line ups for them. Their owners just typically aren’t out shouting at the rest of the world about them online. In no way am I meaning to insult the Porsche brand, I love them, I am trying to buy one, and they are the gold standard for sports cars. Was merely making the point that they do have a relatively smaller social media presence compared to most manufacturers. I find it difficult to find good content on them on Instagram and YouTube, where you have no such issues for many other vehicles and brands.
Any other bigger Porsche YouTube channels out there? Main one I seem to follow for example is Nick Murray who just kinda vlogs with his 911.
I think there are solid channels out there but not as prevalent as the camaro/corvette guys simply do to build quantity.
And my first porsche was a paint to sample gt4 sold to me at msrp. I’ve had two other 991’s alongside that car in the past 2/3 years ( black edition and gts).
ive got a 991.2 gt3rs on order for msrp. No funny games with my dealer. They know I don’t flip and I’m loyal.
08-14-2018, 12:00 PM
#26
That 4.1% GDP number for Q2 was Fake News and stuffed with all sorts of "one-time" items.... including a surge in Govt. spending and people buying stuff from us (like Soybeans) before tariffs kicked in.The Fed will continue to raise rates. The other Central Banks in the world (ECB and BOJ) are removing the punch bowl. Our budget deficit is 5% of GDP and will be over $1 Trillion next year. Liquidity in the markets is nearly non-existent on the downside. And we've already seen some meaningful declines and downside misses in data on US manufacturing, the services sector, payrolls, construction spending, auto sales, and consumer confidence during the past two weeks. This is not a time to be complacent with your investments.
When the music stops.... where's your chair?
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08-14-2018, 01:00 PM
#27
I strongly doubt it, but there will be a slowing economy, higher interest rates, global instability, and just too many shiny pennies out there competing for waning demand. Now, Porsche may be factoring a slowing economy into it's production numbers, but, if not, I simply don't think it's going to be that difficult to get one in the end. Same with the Spyder. The Rennlist hype chamber notwithstanding.
08-14-2018, 01:53 PM
#28
Originally Posted by Archimedes
I strongly doubt it, but there will be a slowing economy, higher interest rates, global instability, and just too many shiny pennies out there competing for waning demand. Now, Porsche may be factoring a slowing economy into it's production numbers, but, if not, I simply don't think it's going to be that difficult to get one in the end. Same with the Spyder. The Rennlist hype chamber notwithstanding.
08-14-2018, 04:22 PM
#29
Rennlist Member
I agree with the YouTube above ("is your dealer lying to you?") ... GT bubble is bursting, which is fine with me I want cars to be easier to obtain.
Probably will be good until they start going hybrid and/or turbo everything.
08-14-2018, 06:13 PM
#30
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It will be interesting to watch the drama unfold with allocations, deliveries and of course the economy. I will be keeping mine personally and watching from afar. It is perfect for me.
It is possible that the original GT4 created hype for the new niche segment. With the 981 I was a first time Porsche customer. I walked in to my dealer 2 weeks AFTER the car was FORMALLY announced in Feb 2015. We agreed on MSRP and I put a deposit down to secure a #6 position. In the end I think they received 10 GT4's. I asked that same dealer a couple of months ago how the 718 GT4 wait list was shaping up out of curiosity. They were already up to 12 deposits and the car is/was 9-12 months away from formal announcement. That is a lot more demand than the first time around! Or maybe it is just a lot earlier demand and it won't increase. All speculation...
And FWIW, that dealer playing it straight, and selling at MSRP, earned them a loyal customer and a second sale as I just bought a Macan GTS from them as well...
It is possible that the original GT4 created hype for the new niche segment. With the 981 I was a first time Porsche customer. I walked in to my dealer 2 weeks AFTER the car was FORMALLY announced in Feb 2015. We agreed on MSRP and I put a deposit down to secure a #6 position. In the end I think they received 10 GT4's. I asked that same dealer a couple of months ago how the 718 GT4 wait list was shaping up out of curiosity. They were already up to 12 deposits and the car is/was 9-12 months away from formal announcement. That is a lot more demand than the first time around! Or maybe it is just a lot earlier demand and it won't increase. All speculation...
And FWIW, that dealer playing it straight, and selling at MSRP, earned them a loyal customer and a second sale as I just bought a Macan GTS from them as well...