The Porsche 718 S - Faster than my old GT4?
05-29-2018, 10:37 PM
#61
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05-29-2018, 11:11 PM
#62
I often bang on about my 987.2S. He's a shocker, its faster than my GT4 at the track.
But why?
Simple, its setup better (mods), and most importantly has a set of trick tyres (A050 soft), liken that to F1's new Hypersoft.
So just recently I upgraded the GT4 tyres to Trofeo R, now the GT4 is faster, but only just.
Never under estimate the rubber, it makes the biggest difference, to a limit.
But why?
Simple, its setup better (mods), and most importantly has a set of trick tyres (A050 soft), liken that to F1's new Hypersoft.
So just recently I upgraded the GT4 tyres to Trofeo R, now the GT4 is faster, but only just.
Never under estimate the rubber, it makes the biggest difference, to a limit.
For modern Porsches tire choice is a real problem and Yokohama don't make an A050 for a 20 inch fitment (or 19 inch for that matter).
However take care, both cars will now pull very high lateral Gs and in the absence of true dry sumps, in both, you may hot spot the engine and potentially have oiling problems wrt the big end bearings in particular.
Last edited by groundhog; 05-29-2018 at 11:39 PM.
05-29-2018, 11:32 PM
#63
05-30-2018, 02:10 AM
#64
Bang on - 100% correct (plus good driver)
For modern Porsches tire choice is a real problem and Yokohama don't make an A050 for a 20 inch fitment (or 19 inch for that matter).
However take care, both cars will now pull very high lateral Gs and in the absence of true dry sumps, in both, you may hot spot the engine and potentially have oiling problems wrt the big end bearings in particular.
For modern Porsches tire choice is a real problem and Yokohama don't make an A050 for a 20 inch fitment (or 19 inch for that matter).
However take care, both cars will now pull very high lateral Gs and in the absence of true dry sumps, in both, you may hot spot the engine and potentially have oiling problems wrt the big end bearings in particular.
On the GT4 the dash G meter got to 1.5G.
Sat took the 987.2 out and got a new PB so its now faster than the GT4 again. Got some serious corner speed with more than 2G lateral. Not many other cars can do that.
05-30-2018, 02:42 AM
#65
05-30-2018, 04:59 AM
#66
I am considering switching to cup car brakes so I can fit 18s and AO50s. My old 996.1 GT3 on AO50s is still faster than than GT4 despite all the mods and the car making a decent amount more power. Mind you those old GT3s are something special (mine runs cup LSD, cup shorter FD, aluminium flywheel and small twin plate RSR clutch)
05-30-2018, 05:07 AM
#67
This is very true, A050 soft in the wet are amazing. When the track was still a bit wet on the 4th session I got the second fastest time out of 54 cars including all those stripped out race cars. Then it really dried out and I dropped to 8th, which is still not bad against some running 800HP.
05-30-2018, 05:13 AM
#68
I am considering switching to cup car brakes so I can fit 18s and AO50s. My old 996.1 GT3 on AO50s is still faster than than GT4 despite all the mods and the car making a decent amount more power. Mind you those old GT3s are something special (mine runs cup LSD, cup shorter FD, aluminium flywheel and small twin plate RSR clutch)
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05-30-2018, 06:18 AM
#69
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true but the guy who posted the original comment I quoted said that companies can’t expect to sell cars with fewer cylinders in the US.
05-30-2018, 12:14 PM
#70
05-30-2018, 12:45 PM
#71
Burning Brakes
I was talking about sports cars in general. Especially if they don't make them substantially lighter or completely change the car. Also, who charges that much money for a four-cylinder car? I don't think any four cylinders are anywhere near the price of a Cayman.
05-30-2018, 01:41 PM
#72
The 718 would be great if it were positioned and priced like the Macan is in the SUV lineup.
05-30-2018, 06:20 PM
#74
Today I drove the 991.2 CS and the 718 GTS on the track and I actually preferred the 718. More tossable and easier to control, less likely to step out and not control it. Sound with sports exhaust on was OK, but at least louder then my Targa GTS in the cabin. I did not notice I was driving a 4 pot.
05-30-2018, 06:40 PM
#75
Dealer like to load up stock cars. More profit in the options than the base car based on %. It wouldn't surprise me either if at years end sales goals reached are based on listed MSRPs.