718 GT4?
09-25-2018, 02:43 AM
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lts always a learning game, would be nice if Porsche played ball once in awhile. The point I'm trying to make with the tuned GTS is why bother with a GT4 when you already have a fantastic chassis, add a tune, a nice set of ohlins and upgrade the brakes and you are really off to the races in a GTS. The cost of getting an old NA 3.8l powerkit engine to perform is high relative to the gains.
You never know they may surprise us in some way.
09-25-2018, 02:54 AM
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I think you can get some in the US and they are custom made even then the tire choices are much less limited relative 18s e.g. cup cars run 18s but don't run brembos or rear axle S rams.
lts always a learning game, would be nice if Porsche played ball once in awhile. The point I'm trying to make with the tuned GTS is why bother with a GT4 when you already have a fantastic chassis, add a nice set of ohlins and upgrade the brakes and you are really off to the races in a GTS. The cost of getting an old NA 3.8l powerkit engine to perform is high relative to the gains.
lts always a learning game, would be nice if Porsche played ball once in awhile. The point I'm trying to make with the tuned GTS is why bother with a GT4 when you already have a fantastic chassis, add a nice set of ohlins and upgrade the brakes and you are really off to the races in a GTS. The cost of getting an old NA 3.8l powerkit engine to perform is high relative to the gains.
Tuned turbos are the way of the future. Such easy gains for less money. To take a 3.8L and add mods it becomes expensive.
But i like my turbos for the street and my N/A for the track 100%
For the track a 4cly turbo 718GTS with a tune would be quick but i cannot see it being better then a 420hp GT4 or a tuned 450hp GT4.
The suspension and aero alone on the GT4 would make for a better track car. The turbos also produce heat that i would wonder about on a hot day full of lapping...
09-25-2018, 03:14 AM
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BBS and Forgeline make the 19" track wheels for the 991RS. The BBS on R tires look better then the stock wheels
Tuned turbos are the way of the future. Such easy gains for less money. To take a 3.8L and add mods it becomes expensive.
But i like my turbos for the street and my N/A for the track 100%
For the track a 4cly turbo 718GTS with a tune would be quick but i cannot see it being better then a 420hp GT4 or a tuned 450hp GT4.
The suspension and aero alone on the GT4 would make for a better track car. The turbos also produce heat that i would wonder about on a hot day full of lapping...
Tuned turbos are the way of the future. Such easy gains for less money. To take a 3.8L and add mods it becomes expensive.
But i like my turbos for the street and my N/A for the track 100%
For the track a 4cly turbo 718GTS with a tune would be quick but i cannot see it being better then a 420hp GT4 or a tuned 450hp GT4.
The suspension and aero alone on the GT4 would make for a better track car. The turbos also produce heat that i would wonder about on a hot day full of lapping...
But by the same token I agree with a lot of what you have said. Although the caveat I would put out there is, if you're involved in sprints or stage based events you'd go for the turbos - long multilap sessions are a different kettle of fish.
Right horse for the right course and all that
09-25-2018, 03:24 AM
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GT2 RS
But by the same token I agree with a lot of what you have said. Although the caveat I would put out there is, if you're involved in sprints or stage based events you'd go for the turbos - long multilap sessions are a different kettle of fish.
Right horse for the right course and all that
But by the same token I agree with a lot of what you have said. Although the caveat I would put out there is, if you're involved in sprints or stage based events you'd go for the turbos - long multilap sessions are a different kettle of fish.
Right horse for the right course and all that
The 718 GTS is not the same level of track abuse preperations as a RS. That being said, porsche could develop a GT4 turbo car to withstand the abuse. I suspect this will be the car that replaces the 718GT4 in the future. A carrera 6cly turbo 450hp GT4 for 2022.
09-25-2018, 03:30 AM
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The GT2RS is designed to handle the heat. Have not see anybody with issues to date as it is well engineered.
The 718 GTS is not the same level of track abuse preperations as a RS. That being said, porsche could develop a GT4 turbo car to withstand the abuse. I suspect this will be the car that replaces the 718GT4 in the future. A carrera 6cly turbo 450hp GT4 for 2022.
The 718 GTS is not the same level of track abuse preperations as a RS. That being said, porsche could develop a GT4 turbo car to withstand the abuse. I suspect this will be the car that replaces the 718GT4 in the future. A carrera 6cly turbo 450hp GT4 for 2022.
09-25-2018, 07:05 AM
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09-25-2018, 10:00 AM
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Without getting too far off topic, i have our 991.2 GTS making 500/500 at the wheels and i'm headed to COTA in 2 weeks to see just how well she handles one of the hottest road courses we visit. I found 20" sticky rubber and she's getting the kitchen sink thrown at her as far as mods. If you guys want to follow along, we are posting daily updates on our IG page. Or i can just shut the hell up and let the 718 GT4 summit resume.
09-25-2018, 11:23 AM
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09-25-2018, 11:43 AM
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Just a data point. I had my 718 CGTS at Sebring for TRAKCAR’s windows up AC on open track. Temps in the mid 90’s and humidity in the 90’s car performed flawlessly with oil temps not going over 235 degrees and no observable drop in power over the day. My terminal speed into turn 17 was the same over the day. Now I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer and don’t think it is a superior track car over the GT4 but I did surprise a few GT3’s in the twisty’s.
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09-25-2018, 01:11 PM
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Just a data point. I had my 718 CGTS at Sebring for TRAKCAR’s windows up AC on open track. Temps in the mid 90’s and humidity in the 90’s car performed flawlessly with oil temps not going over 235 degrees and no observable drop in power over the day. My terminal speed into turn 17 was the same over the day. Now I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer and don’t think it is a superior track car over the GT4 but I did surprise a few GT3’s in the twisty’s.
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09-25-2018, 01:14 PM
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I have 9000 miles or pure track time on my GT4. Pulls as hard if not harder then new.
The Subaru would have timed out by now.
09-25-2018, 02:53 PM
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Just a data point. I had my 718 CGTS at Sebring for TRAKCAR’s windows up AC on open track. Temps in the mid 90’s and humidity in the 90’s car performed flawlessly with oil temps not going over 235 degrees and no observable drop in power over the day. My terminal speed into turn 17 was the same over the day. Now I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer and don’t think it is a superior track car over the GT4 but I did surprise a few GT3’s in the twisty’s.
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Along those lines, this is interesting if you have not seen it in the 718 forum https://rennlist.com/forums/718-foru...oject-car.html
09-25-2018, 03:19 PM
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Just a data point. I had my 718 CGTS at Sebring for TRAKCAR’s windows up AC on open track. Temps in the mid 90’s and humidity in the 90’s car performed flawlessly with oil temps not going over 235 degrees and no observable drop in power over the day. My terminal speed into turn 17 was the same over the day. Now I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer and don’t think it is a superior track car over the GT4 but I did surprise a few GT3’s in the twisty’s.
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The 2009 couldn't handle the heat and my son had to back off or come in early after the first 2 sessions (but it doesn't have the 3rd rad). My wife and I both run in the advanced (red) run group, so we were pushing hard. The GT4 and 718 both ran like champs with no overheating issues at all.
09-25-2018, 07:44 PM
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Along those lines, this is interesting if you have not seen it in the 718 forum https://rennlist.com/forums/718-foru...oject-car.html
A cold morning at Sebring would drop that lap time even lower which is impressive!