718 GT4?
05-30-2018, 02:49 PM
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05-30-2018, 04:10 PM
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Thank you so much Whoopsy. The only other thing I would like to get your opinion on... as it is believed the GT4 and Spyder will be the same spec this time, do you think it is possible the Spyder might have the GT4 designation as part of it's name or do you think it will just be labelled the "Spyder" again? I wonder if Porsche marketing or the GT division would even allow this due to political, history, or any number of other reasons even though they will be "twins."
05-30-2018, 04:12 PM
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...do you think it is possible the Spyder might have the GT4 designation as part of it's name or do you think it will just be labelled the "Spyder" again? I wonder if Porsche marketing or the GT division would even allow this due to political, history, or any number of other reasons even though they will be "twins."
05-30-2018, 06:35 PM
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I’m in the 3.8 punched to 4l camp. My camp also thinks that it won’t look as good as the 981 GT4, but likely much better than the regular 718s because the bumpers and wing will minimize the negatives of the awful lights on both ends. Finally our camp thinks the car sounds awful in the videos out there now but agree/hope that it likely is not how the car will finally sound.
4l 400 hp for Spyder, 420 for GT4.
4l 400 hp for Spyder, 420 for GT4.
05-30-2018, 07:22 PM
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Thank you so much Whoopsy. The only other thing I would like to get your opinion on... as it is believed the GT4 and Spyder will be the same spec this time, do you think it is possible the Spyder might have the GT4 designation as part of it's name or do you think it will just be labelled the "Spyder" again? I wonder if Porsche marketing or the GT division would even allow this due to political, history, or any number of other reasons even though they will be "twins."
However they market them is up to the marketing department, Weissach just develop them.
I didn't dive into a lot fo details when I talked to the engineer that develop the GT4/Spyder, he said the 2 cars are basically the same. Which make sense as the last GT4 and Spyder are basically the same too.
My mine was on the car that doesn't exist. Manual does't excite me too much.
05-30-2018, 07:50 PM
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For the record, since I'm not a huge fan of violence I want to try and curtail the talk of people "punching out" others!"
To get to 3.99L from 3.8L, those that build these 9A1 stroked motors (only 3 people worldwide of which I know) do it the same way the factory did it with the Cup cars and then the road cars. A 3.8L has a 102mm bore and a 77.5mm stroke. A 4.0L has a 102mm bore and an 81.5mm stroke.
Mr. Potato Head (3.8L) gets a different mustache, nose and glasses and it's plug n play. There is no need to punch out anything. His round potato body stays the same which is why I like to tell people that our 4.0L conversions are fully reversible. I'm not speaking to what is the currently anticipated power plant as much as i am clarifying that if someone were to make a 3.8L into a 4.0L, the only thing they would punch out is themselves for not doing it sooner!
And now back to our regularly scheduled program.
To get to 3.99L from 3.8L, those that build these 9A1 stroked motors (only 3 people worldwide of which I know) do it the same way the factory did it with the Cup cars and then the road cars. A 3.8L has a 102mm bore and a 77.5mm stroke. A 4.0L has a 102mm bore and an 81.5mm stroke.
Mr. Potato Head (3.8L) gets a different mustache, nose and glasses and it's plug n play. There is no need to punch out anything. His round potato body stays the same which is why I like to tell people that our 4.0L conversions are fully reversible. I'm not speaking to what is the currently anticipated power plant as much as i am clarifying that if someone were to make a 3.8L into a 4.0L, the only thing they would punch out is themselves for not doing it sooner!
And now back to our regularly scheduled program.
05-30-2018, 07:52 PM
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05-30-2018, 08:14 PM
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For the record, since I'm not a huge fan of violence I want to try and curtail the talk of people "punching out" others!"
To get to 3.99L from 3.8L, those that build these 9A1 stroked motors (only 3 people worldwide of which I know) do it the same way the factory did it with the Cup cars and then the road cars. A 3.8L has a 102mm bore and a 77.5mm stroke. A 4.0L has a 102mm bore and an 81.5mm stroke.
Mr. Potato Head (3.8L) gets a different mustache, nose and glasses and it's plug n play. There is no need to punch out anything. His round potato body stays the same which is why I like to tell people that our 4.0L conversions are fully reversible. I'm not speaking to what is the currently anticipated power plant as much as i am clarifying that if someone were to make a 3.8L into a 4.0L, the only thing they would punch out is themselves for not doing it sooner!
And now back to our regularly scheduled program.
To get to 3.99L from 3.8L, those that build these 9A1 stroked motors (only 3 people worldwide of which I know) do it the same way the factory did it with the Cup cars and then the road cars. A 3.8L has a 102mm bore and a 77.5mm stroke. A 4.0L has a 102mm bore and an 81.5mm stroke.
Mr. Potato Head (3.8L) gets a different mustache, nose and glasses and it's plug n play. There is no need to punch out anything. His round potato body stays the same which is why I like to tell people that our 4.0L conversions are fully reversible. I'm not speaking to what is the currently anticipated power plant as much as i am clarifying that if someone were to make a 3.8L into a 4.0L, the only thing they would punch out is themselves for not doing it sooner!
And now back to our regularly scheduled program.
05-30-2018, 08:45 PM
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For the record, since I'm not a huge fan of violence I want to try and curtail the talk of people "punching out" others!"
To get to 3.99L from 3.8L, those that build these 9A1 stroked motors (only 3 people worldwide of which I know) do it the same way the factory did it with the Cup cars and then the road cars. A 3.8L has a 102mm bore and a 77.5mm stroke. A 4.0L has a 102mm bore and an 81.5mm stroke.
Mr. Potato Head (3.8L) gets a different mustache, nose and glasses and it's plug n play. There is no need to punch out anything. His round potato body stays the same which is why I like to tell people that our 4.0L conversions are fully reversible. I'm not speaking to what is the currently anticipated power plant as much as i am clarifying that if someone were to make a 3.8L into a 4.0L, the only thing they would punch out is themselves for not doing it sooner!
And now back to our regularly scheduled program.
To get to 3.99L from 3.8L, those that build these 9A1 stroked motors (only 3 people worldwide of which I know) do it the same way the factory did it with the Cup cars and then the road cars. A 3.8L has a 102mm bore and a 77.5mm stroke. A 4.0L has a 102mm bore and an 81.5mm stroke.
Mr. Potato Head (3.8L) gets a different mustache, nose and glasses and it's plug n play. There is no need to punch out anything. His round potato body stays the same which is why I like to tell people that our 4.0L conversions are fully reversible. I'm not speaking to what is the currently anticipated power plant as much as i am clarifying that if someone were to make a 3.8L into a 4.0L, the only thing they would punch out is themselves for not doing it sooner!
And now back to our regularly scheduled program.
I like how renderings has become the new term for photoshop. Back in my day rendering was actually building a 3d model. *old man shaking fist*
05-30-2018, 09:34 PM
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05-30-2018, 09:40 PM
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05-30-2018, 10:04 PM
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Not sure if it's suggested already, but seeing as it's unlikely (to me) that they'll revive a variant of the old 3.8 from the GT4, could they simply change the GT3/RS's 4.0 to have a longer stroke and smaller bore? This would be consistent with achieving the much speculated lower redline.
05-30-2018, 11:18 PM
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Not sure if it's suggested already, but seeing as it's unlikely
(to me) that they'll revive a variant of the old 3.8 from the GT4, could they simply change the GT3/RS's 4.0 to have a longer stroke and smaller bore? This would be consistent with achieving the much speculated lower redline.
(to me) that they'll revive a variant of the old 3.8 from the GT4, could they simply change the GT3/RS's 4.0 to have a longer stroke and smaller bore? This would be consistent with achieving the much speculated lower redline.