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Old 02-06-2019, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by erik_plus8
Can't read the articel in EU. Could someone paste it in here? Thanks!
For those who want a new 718 Cayman with a six-cylinder but were worried they won’t have the coin for the forthcoming—and as-yet unrevealed—hard-core GT4 variant, we come bearing good news: According to a well-placed source, Porsche will once again offer a six-cylinder engine below the Cayman GT4 and Boxster Spyder line-toppers.

The exact positioning of the new variant wasn’t made explicit, but it could possibly fill the gap between the GTS and GT4/Spyder while offering subtler exterior looks along with a more refined cabin with more sound deadening, additional luxury trimmings, and more comfort-oriented seats than the stripped-out and hard-nosed GT4. In that way, it would be a 718 analog to the 991.2 911 GT3 Touring. There’s also a chance the new model will simply be the next GTS.

If sixers do make their way into the 718’s general population, we’d love for the 718 Cayman and Boxster S models to ditch their 2.5-liter turbo fours and revert to six-cylinder power. That would leave the torque-rich but aurally unconvincing 2.0-liter turbo-four to the base 718 models and create a more compelling reason for shoppers to upgrade. There are also a number of Porsche aficionados—including one of our own contributors—who remain unmoved by four-cylinder powerplants.

There’s also the question of which six-cylinder will be used. Rumors continue to swirl around the potential for a detuned 4.0-liter from the 991.2 911 GT3 or the current 992 Carrera’s twin-turbo 3.0-liter unit, but our money is on the 3.8-liter flat-six from the 991.1 (2012–2015) 911 Carrera S/GTS and 981 Cayman GT4.

Crucially, the 3.8-liter is the engine found in the recently unveiled 718 GT4 Clubsport race car pictured above, and that model’s predecessor used a 3.8-liter in the exact same spec as its road-car sibling. The new Clubsport’s 420-hp figure is also a reasonable jump over the old GT4, and slots in perfectly underneath the new 911 Carrera S, as did the older car. It’s certainly possible that the GT4 gets the 420-hp version of the engine, with the lower-spec car coming in somewhere around 400. Porsche loves to space out its offerings into thin niches in terms of both power and price.

However the details shake out, we can’t wait to hear a six-cylinder wail in Porsche’s smallest sports cars again.
Old 02-06-2019, 01:39 PM
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I read that as there being a healthy bump between the gts and gt4, this would fill a large gap.
Old 02-06-2019, 02:11 PM
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Thank you very much, Yellow!

That is really interesting and indicates two things:
A) Porsche considers the experiment with the 4-cyl turbos a total disaster
B) Porsche really wants to continue selling the mid-engined cars and will by this keep them competitive (or rather leading) in the segment
Yay!
Old 02-06-2019, 02:37 PM
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Per Automotive News - Units sold in the USA for cayman and boxster by year.

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Old 02-06-2019, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mithiral67


Per Automotive News - Units sold in the USA for cayman and boxster by year.
Great figures. General downward trend in this segment since 2006 but not a unmitigated disaster people make it out to be. The boxster is unique because less people are buying convertibles, full stop, and especially 2 seater convertibles. But the cayman sales are down 10-15% which can be any number of factors. The reintroduction of a 6 cylinder isn't going to make those sales shoot up through the roof. In 2006, Porsche sold 7000 cayman cars. Even with the 981 release, they barely sold half that in a year. The first 3 years of cayman sales (2006-2008) account for 40% of total cayman sales to date (2006-2018).
Old 02-06-2019, 09:29 PM
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MotorTrend Article on engine and tranny.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/pors...urce=instagram
Old 02-06-2019, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SToronto
MotorTrend Article on engine and tranny.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/pors...urce=instagram
Interesting that MotorTrend was willing to go out on a limb and reiterate the 3.8L claim. This adds a bit more weight to the 3.8L; right or wrong...
Old 02-06-2019, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by greggmorton
Originally Posted by SToronto
MotorTrend Article on engine and tranny.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/pors...urce=instagram


Interesting that MotorTrend was willing to go out on a limb and reiterate the 3.8L claim. This adds a bit more weight to the 3.8L; right or wrong...
All MT is doing is quoting that car article from days ago. Copycats! No original thought. Bleh
Old 02-07-2019, 12:36 AM
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It looks similar to the roll out last time

Leakage of info prior to Geneva included an official interview with EVO mag in the first week of Feb (2015)

Looks like a bit of information has been spilled to a few sources - wouldn't count on the reliability

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Old 02-07-2019, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ExMB
All MT is doing is quoting that car article from days ago. Copycats! No original thought. Bleh
Yup. In the age of the internet, most of these car mags just tend to regurgitate "news" from each other.

MT, Automobile, C&D, R&T...most of them are hot garbage
Old 02-07-2019, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JAhmed
Yup. In the age of the internet, most of these car mags just tend to regurgitate "news" from each other.

MT, Automobile, C&D, R&T...most of them are hot garbage
Sadly, the original 'source' may have been rumors from a thread like this one! Then it gets repeated as fact and goes downhill from there.
Old 02-07-2019, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr.Bill
Sadly, the original 'source' may have been rumors from a thread like this one! Then it gets repeated as fact and goes downhill from there.
Yup! That's why, as amusing as this thread is, I'll just wait for a press release from Porsche
Old 02-07-2019, 02:57 PM
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Today I was at the factory in Zuffenhausen.
Before lunch I saw a just produced black GT4 crossing the street to the Exclusive Manufaktur.
The street car has the same bumper and wing as the Clubsport version.
After my visit to the musuem and lunch I had a factory tour, at the beginning of the assembly line I saw a finished 718 Boxster Spyder dashboard.
The dashboad had yellow contrast stitching, lower part was covered in Alcantara and the rev counter stated "Spyder" (redline at 8.000 rpm).
Old 02-07-2019, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Juli
Today I was at the factory in Zuffenhausen.
Before lunch I saw a just produced black GT4 crossing the street to the Exclusive Manufaktur.
The street car has the same bumper and wing as the Clubsport version.
After my visit to the musuem and lunch I had a factory tour, at the beginning of the assembly line I saw a finished 718 Boxster Spyder dashboard.
The dashboad had yellow contrast stitching, lower part was covered in Alcantara and the rev counter stated "Spyder" (red line at 8.000 rpm).
This is actual useful info right here, a tach reading
Old 02-07-2019, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Juli
Today I was at the factory in Zuffenhausen.
Before lunch I saw a just produced black GT4 crossing the street to the Exclusive Manufaktur.
The street car has the same bumper and wing as the Clubsport version.
After my visit to the musuem and lunch I had a factory tour, at the beginning of the assembly line I saw a finished 718 Boxster Spyder dashboard.
The dashboad had yellow contrast stitching, lower part was covered in Alcantara and the rev counter stated "Spyder" (redline at 8.000 rpm).
How did the GT4 sound?

Tell us that you took pics, please.

And thanks for the info; that’s useful.


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