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Ok - are you saying the improvements plus additional HP have made no difference?
Im not saying the new cars additional power and aero have made no difference, however I am stating that the tire is certainly a big cause of the improvement to lap times.
If this is the case your logs will show that longitudinal and lateral gs are significantly higher for this years CS relative to last years due to the change in tires. �� As i said above, the tire has a lot to do with the improvement of lap time but there are other details to the whole picture.
It would be great if you could do a plot of this years and last years friction circles for DIR ���� Once we prep all the cars for our next event and get through the race weekend at Daytona I will be happy to allocate the time to make you a pretty graph, that's not a problem. Cheers mate
I digress from the recent discussions . I'd really like to see Lizard green as an offered color. That's not unreasonable if the non-gt 992 has it optional? Id otherwise love myself a Miami blue 718 gt4!
I'd like to see them offer 5 Historic Colors (fill in the blank) My choices would be Signal Yellow (code 114), Signal Green (code W25), Bahama Blue (code 354), Gelbgrun (Yellow Green,code 137) or Birch Green (Light Green, code 253), Aubergine (something similar to code 025), 5 Regular Colors (Guards Red, Black, White, Yellow and one new "free" color specific to the GT4 a la Lizard Green), 5 Metallic Colors (Silver, Grey, Green, Red, Blue) and 5 Premium Colors (Miami Blue, Lizard Green, Gulf Orange, Dark Red Metallic (a la Arena Red only darker and less gold) or Carmine Red, some bright new color).
Pricing:
Regular colors are free
Metallic colors are + $750
Historic colors are + $1500
Premium colors are + $3000
think the argument could be made that Historic/Premium should all be + $1500 but don't think Porsche would ever buy into this proposition
not a big fan of the dull colors (sorry if I offend anyone) so don't see any reason why they would offer two whites, two blacks and multiple silvers or 50 shades of grey
strong case could be made for more blues, more reds, more yellows, more oranges, more purples
in deference to Eduardo, I've included multiple greens!
Originally Posted by MEM82
I'd really like to see Lizard green as an offered color.
Id otherwise love myself a Miami blue 718 gt4!
The GT4 is a lot less street friendly than the GTS. So if you love your GTS, you probably should stay put and just add power or change the gearing. I've driven my friends 981S several times on and off the track and it is a fine car, but a lot more civil than the GT4. FWIW, the LWB's are the biggest difference, but all the stuff Yellow Submarine pointed out are a factor also. I could drive a 981s or GTS on a daily basis, minus the practicality, but that is not why I got a Cayman. I bought one because it serves a different purpose. It's my track toy and "just for joy vehicle", and for that the GT4 is perfect. I would not enjoy it on a daily basis.
As always, it is about compromises. I used to have one car that served a multi purpose, which M3's are great for, but if you want the best of both worlds, then you need two cars, one for DD and one for fun/track. Otherwise, pick your poison.
Totally agree with gocart Mozart. I just purchased a GT4 As my track car / fun car. I DD a BMW 3 Series. I was set on a Cayman and after test driving every iteration from 2015 up the GT4 was the only vehicle for me. It is a completely different beast from a GTS, honestly they aren't comparable. I thought too of holding out for the 718 GT4 but just couldn't justify the dealer upcharge let alone the fact that it's unlikely to get one - even if you are on a dealership "list". From my count there are only about 50 GT4's now available in the US under CPO. Grab one before they are gone - you won't regret it.
Does that package include horrible quality/mismatched paint, defective control arms, & securities fraud fines
Yes it does - but its ok, for an extra 17k you can download the "ludicrous distortion" patch - switch it on and you can't see or feel any of the above. I believe the "ludicrous distortion patch" was pre-loaded on many of the early release models delivered to California, Oregon and Washington (state). Nearly all the journo test cars had it installed . If you really want to up the tech, you can add the "ludicrous luxury distortion" patch this gives the model anything the "fit, feel and finish" of a Mercedes S class better still it only adds another 17k. I'm totally blown away by this new tech
Originally Posted by JSF101
Hear!!! Hear!!!
I'd like to see them offer 5 Historic Colors (fill in the blank) My choices would be Signal Yellow (code 114), Signal Green (code W25), Bahama Blue (code 354), Gelbgrun (Yellow Green,code 137) or Birch Green (Light Green, code 253), Aubergine (something similar to code 025), 5 Regular Colors (Guards Red, Black, White, Yellow and one new "free" color specific to the GT4 a la Lizard Green), 5 Metallic Colors (Silver, Grey, Green, Red, Blue) and 5 Premium Colors (Miami Blue, Lizard Green, Gulf Orange, Dark Red Metallic (a la Arena Red only darker and less gold) or Carmine Red, some bright new color).
Pricing:
Regular colors are free
Metallic colors are + $750
Historic colors are + $1500
Premium colors are + $3000
think the argument could be made that Historic/Premium should all be + $1500 but don't think Porsche would ever buy into this proposition
not a big fan of the dull colors (sorry if I offend anyone) so don't see any reason why they would offer two whites, two blacks and multiple silvers or 50 shades of grey
strong case could be made for more blues, more reds, more yellows, more oranges, more purples
in deference to Eduardo, I've included multiple greens!
Like your choices - personally I'm a great fan of the strong bold colours (which is totally subjective of course and in the eye of the beholder ) - favourites are Guards Red, Racing Yellow, Birch Green and Yellow Green (gelb grun). Lizard Green is a dead ringer for Mclarens Mantis Green - which really pops and definitely polarises opinion
The historic collection is a great idea. However, I have a radical pricing plan for other typically standard colours - offer white, silver and black as PTS for 15k, the world will be much brighter and happier for it
I have a radical pricing plan for other typically standard colours - offer white, silver and black as PTS for 15k, the world will be much brighter and happier for it
The profit margin for special colors and PTS is off the chart and trending higher … all Porsche does to change colors is turn a **** in the paint booth. Ridiculous, but some pay and Porsche laughs all the way to the bank.
01-12-2019, 02:34 AM
. If you really want to up the tech, you can add the "ludicrous luxury distortion" patch this gives the model anything the "fit, feel and finish" of a Mercedes S class better still it only adds another 17k. I'm totally blown away by this new tech 
