hdavidson

Hi all,

I'm new to the forum. I just pursched my first Porsche in over 20+ years (had a 964 C4).

This past week I traded in my beloved French Racing Blue Jaguar XKR-S in towards a GT4.

The GT4 is highly optioned (LWB, PCCBs, etc.) and stickered for just under $117K. The GT4 is good shape and has approximately 3800 miles on it. One of the options listed on the build sheet is a lithium ion battery. This isnt something I was particularly interested in but I really liked how the rest of the car was optioned so I decided to make a deal.

After taking delivery of the car I found out it didn't have a lithium iron battery. I only discovered this when getting ready to connected up a ctek charger. I contacted the dealer I purchased it through and they now tell me Porsche stopped including the lithium batteries in builds due to reliability issues with them. Is this true? If so, why wouldn't they have shared this information prior to the transaction? I find it hard to believe that Porsche wouldn't at least update the window sticker to reflect the change in options. Even though I didn't really care to have a lithium battery I did feel like I paid a premium for it. I'm going to pursue the dealer to provide some financial recompense since I was originally told it was included and it was a $2300 factory option.

Can any confirm Porsche pulled these from their builds?

How would you recommend I handle this with the dealer?

I'd appreciate any feedback.

Thanks!

aryork

I do not recall seeing any posts on OEM batteries. There has been some discussion of after market batteries, however.

zedcat

I know that Suncoast parts used to list the lightweight battery on their site so did a search out of curiosity and got a page saying product not available. So there could be some truth to what you were told.

aualexa2

Some background reading: https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/9384...-paid-for.html

hdavidson

Thanks. Sounds like there's some truth to their story then. I still think they should have disclosed it wasn't included. The higher MSRP influenced my negotiations. I assumed I was getting an additional $2300 worth of options than I actually got... in my opinion the deal has going from being decent to not so great. Hopefully they'll do something to help make it right. I'm sure they paid less for the vechile when they took it in on trade.

Thanks all.

js997

not sure about reliability. my gt4 has Lion battery. so far it's been working fine. ~4k miles on the clock. kept it under ctek lion charger when it sits for more than a week. when I first opened the cowl, I couldn't believe it was a Lion battery because of its size. it's huge compared to its predecessor. the part# is on the battery so I looked it up. 991.611.040.52. sure enough Genuine Porsche motorsport lithium ion battery pops up. still couldn't believe it, I unmounted the battery and lifted it up. wow super light!

I think the Porsche dealership should have known better and disclosed it upfront. that is a pricey option after all and it would have influenced my negotiations as well. on the bright side, you have a gt4! congrats and enjoy!

BryanCO

Congrats on the car.

I agree with your perspective re the car missing an option, but we don't know how the car was represented. Did they tell you it included the optional battery or did they simply provide the original build sheet? Did you inspect the car prior to purchase? I doubt I would check the battery but there is some responsibility on the purchaser.

Ultimately I hope the dealership works with you to find an agreeable solution.

hdavidson

They had the build info on their site and I even asked questions about how to take care of the battery before I made the purchased.

I didn't get to inspect the car as it was an out of state transaction. They shipped the car down to me and picked up my trade at the same time. I really didn't think I would need to inspect the battery compartment but wish I had before taking delivery.

I'll let you all know what happens...

Thanks.

Jimmy-D

This is interesting- Porsche did stop selling Lithium batteries due to liability. If they sit too long they could go bye-bye so Porsche has left that to the aftermarket. I believe credits were issued to those that paid for the battery and they never came with car or possibly the Dealer took the Lithium and sold it for good money. I would discuss with the Dealer that this info should of been disclosed, upfront, and you are hoping that they would make things right with maybe (3) free services ect

4carl

There certanally was misrepresentation intentional or not. The ethical thing to do is make you feel right about it . problem is business ethics and car dealers usealy don't mix. Good luck ! Carl

Viperguy324

Based on the basic law classes I've took, they did not fulfill the contract. I'm sure a lawyer will chime in.. this is based on the assumption the deal was not "as-is".

ExMB

Submit receipts, ala rebate, and hope for reimbursement?

BryanCO

Yep. Listing the build sheet and not disclosing that the battery was missing is a strong argument for some sort of compensation.

kfmcmahon

+1
its like listing it as PCCB optioned car only to find they replaced with steels
they will probably claim it was your responsibility to check all aspects of the car against the build sheet to make sure you knew what you were getting though...

Perimeter

Dealer looks like he pulled a fast one, I would not let this stand