PTS Olympic Blue GT4 FS at Hennessy Atlanta
#17
It's a very special car and in this color, even more special.
GLWS!
GLWS!
#18
Race Car
I'd pay them MSRP for it - $106,570. Not a dime more. Maybe a nickle more if they gave me a free T-shirt or something. Remember, the price of the PTS is already included in the MSRP.
I'd fly out and drive it to AZ. But then I'd have to find someone who wants my GT3 allocation. That might be a tough one!
I'd fly out and drive it to AZ. But then I'd have to find someone who wants my GT3 allocation. That might be a tough one!
#19
Drifting
LOL, but the pain-in-the-*** of configuring and getting approval for a PTS isn't. And the extended wait for a car isn't. And the "will this look good and will I love it?" is off the table since the 2nd-hand buyer can look at it in person. Oh, and perhaps most of all: if you want an Olympic Blue 981GT4, and especially one with under 200 miles? Guess what the price is.
And for that matter, the "specialness" of a 2011 GT3RS4.0 or a Carrera GT is baked into the MSRP; why don't they sell for MSRP?
It's your call, of course, whether you'll pay MSRP + $0.10 for this car. But it's clear that Hennessy would be a collection of fools to sell it for that.
And for that matter, the "specialness" of a 2011 GT3RS4.0 or a Carrera GT is baked into the MSRP; why don't they sell for MSRP?
It's your call, of course, whether you'll pay MSRP + $0.10 for this car. But it's clear that Hennessy would be a collection of fools to sell it for that.
#20
LOL, but the pain-in-the-*** of configuring and getting approval for a PTS isn't. And the extended wait for a car isn't. And the "will this look good and will I love it?" is off the table since the 2nd-hand buyer can look at it in person. Oh, and perhaps most of all: if you want an Olympic Blue 981GT4, and especially one with under 200 miles? Guess what the price is.
And for that matter, the "specialness" of a 2011 GT3RS4.0 or a Carrera GT is baked into the MSRP; why don't they sell for MSRP?
It's your call, of course, whether you'll pay MSRP + $0.10 for this car. But it's clear that Hennessy would be a collection of fools to sell it for that.
And for that matter, the "specialness" of a 2011 GT3RS4.0 or a Carrera GT is baked into the MSRP; why don't they sell for MSRP?
It's your call, of course, whether you'll pay MSRP + $0.10 for this car. But it's clear that Hennessy would be a collection of fools to sell it for that.
#21
Nordschleife Master
They are fishing for the one guy who MUST have gulf blue and doesn't have enough common sense to realize that the color doesn't make the car and doesn't justify the premium. PTS premium, as stated by bill, is baked into the msrp. The frenzy about pts is because people think it is a big lottery ticket when it's really more of a scratch off ticket. Your sample of buyers willing to eat scratch off ticket winnings would be fairly large, but over a big lottery ticket is pretty small and is probably only handful. Pts is not an automatic jackpot. You need to find a buyer. The vast majority care about the car, not a special color. Of course, you'll get the one guy who thinks the car is some big future investment and must have it for the collection. That is who they are fishing for. It's a poor investment, though, especially if it is never driven.
#22
Drifting
Hello, Joe. Not sure why you think the only reason a person would pay a premium is because they see it as an investment that will return an even higher premium in the future. I would say the majority of potential PTS premium buyers, myself included if I were to buy one for a premium, would be doing so for no other reason then a) we have the money to do so, and B) we want the color. Since color doesn't diminish in anyway the road and track capabilities of the GTS, it makes sense to spend your money on one that brings extra pleasure because you like the color more and find it unique.
I would say very few buyers at this point are thinking of it as some big investment. The vast majority of Porsche buyers realize that whatever they are getting, they're going to lose money on it.
I would say very few buyers at this point are thinking of it as some big investment. The vast majority of Porsche buyers realize that whatever they are getting, they're going to lose money on it.
#23
Rennlist Member
Beautiful example of as close to new and unique gt4 as it gets. Plus it has all the essentials (VERY well specced) such as carbon trim, LWB and full leather interior -- if I was not so dead seat on Agate - I'd pick this up.
#24
Rennlist Member
I actually believe PTS is worth a premium...rare'ish car, terrific car, super rare color...just makes the car that much more enjoyable especially if it's a color you absolutely love.
To me, these cars are underpriced for what you are getting so a premium for PTS is no biggie...similar to the Mustang GT350Rs...low'ish price so guys pay over since it's so good.
To me, these cars are underpriced for what you are getting so a premium for PTS is no biggie...similar to the Mustang GT350Rs...low'ish price so guys pay over since it's so good.
#25
They are fishing for the one guy who MUST have gulf blue and doesn't have enough common sense to realize that the color doesn't make the car and doesn't justify the premium. PTS premium, as stated by bill, is baked into the msrp. The frenzy about pts is because people think it is a big lottery ticket when it's really more of a scratch off ticket. Your sample of buyers willing to eat scratch off ticket winnings would be fairly large, but over a big lottery ticket is pretty small and is probably only handful. Pts is not an automatic jackpot. You need to find a buyer. The vast majority care about the car, not a special color. Of course, you'll get the one guy who thinks the car is some big future investment and must have it for the collection. That is who they are fishing for. It's a poor investment, though, especially if it is never driven.
#26
Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by NoGaBiker
Hello, Joe. Not sure why you think the only reason a person would pay a premium is because they see it as an investment that will return an even higher premium in the future. I would say the majority of potential PTS premium buyers, myself included if I were to buy one for a premium, would be doing so for no other reason then a) we have the money to do so, and B) we want the color. Since color doesn't diminish in anyway the road and track capabilities of the GTS, it makes sense to spend your money on one that brings extra pleasure because you like the color more and find it unique.
I would say very few buyers at this point are thinking of it as some big investment. The vast majority of Porsche buyers realize that whatever they are getting, they're going to lose money on it.
I would say very few buyers at this point are thinking of it as some big investment. The vast majority of Porsche buyers realize that whatever they are getting, they're going to lose money on it.
#27
There's really not a lot of logic to buying these cars in the first place. Passion? yes. I can't explain why I'm obsessed with one day owning a Gulf Blue Porsche I just am. Will I one day? Probably, as it's generally been my pattern to set a goal and then achieve that goal. But maybe not. We'll see. Personally, I never, ever buy a car thinking I'm going to make money off it. I'm not fooled by the current market bubble, cars depreciate. And even if they don't the cost of ownership usually outstrips the profit you could make putting the money wisely elsewhere. If I bought this car it would be driven on all days except when the Spyder itch got ahold of me or when the snow flies. And I would probably have to take it to the track as that is really where you find out what it's all about. But alas, it's all a dream. Today. Try not to make too many assumptions about other peoples motives. It will make life easier for you.
#28
Gorgeous car, but looks darker than Gulf by a fair bit to me. $130k, just for a specific paint job?
#29
Three Wheelin'
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