PTS Spyder Build Status...
03-07-2016, 12:32 PM
#452
Toyota's 'Voodoo' vs Porsche's 'Voodoo'...
Rennlisters Hp1 & others in the 991 gt3 forum which shed some
light on the similarities & differences between these two colors:
Back in August of 2015 I posted the following:
"Or 'Voodoo Blau'. We assume that the similarly
named Toyoya FJ Cruiser color was the inspiration
for that particular request but have no proof."
Since that date, I have engaged in some very informative
exchanges re: the color formula for Toyota's 'Voodoo' vs
Porsche's 'Voodoo' which I think might be interesting to
others reading this thread:
This is a question for Eduardo ; I know it's been said that Voo Doo
is actually a Toyota color , but I've never seen an FJ Cruiser that
was anywhere near as dark a shade as Voo Doo on a Porsche - is
there more than one shade of ''swimming pool blue '' on Toyotas
or is in fact the Porsche color significantly darker ? Most FJ's I see
look closer to Riviera .
Thanks !
is actually a Toyota color , but I've never seen an FJ Cruiser that
was anywhere near as dark a shade as Voo Doo on a Porsche - is
there more than one shade of ''swimming pool blue '' on Toyotas
or is in fact the Porsche color significantly darker ? Most FJ's I see
look closer to Riviera .
Thanks !
1) At least on my part, I have always been kidding when I say that
Z12 'Voodoo Blue' has a proud color history...but at Toyota, not PAG!
It was just my way to tease the owners of these 'Voodoo Blue' Porsches.
To my knowledge, no one has documented, or proven, that the Porsche
color code Z12 is the same as the color 'Voodoo Blue' from the Toyota
FJ cruiser.
2) Hp1: There is no correlation between any other manufacturer's
color code (e.g. Voodoo Toyota 8t6) & the color code Porsche assigns
to a hue that they approve (e.g. Porsche Z12). PAG color code system
is unique to that manufacturers. And it frankly doesn't prove, or disprove,
anything that the internal color codes for 'Voodoo' are not the same at
Toyota & Porsche.
3) PTS is customer driven. So a customer has to request a color
by submitting a sample and then Porsche does a feasibility study
for coverage, fading, et al. on the different surfaces (plastic, steel,
aluminum, magnesium, etc) on a particular Porsche model. It is
then approved or not. If the requested color is NOT a vintage/
historic Porsche color that has a previous association with the
marque (e.g. 'Signal Orange' or 'Gulf Blue'), the requesting PTS
customer can decide WHAT to call the color he/she requested.
So it can be 'Hot Rod Pink Metallic'; or 'Pink Shoe'; or....
'Voodoo Blue'. More than likely the person at PAG that
received the customer's 'Voodoo Blue' sample did not question
the customer's color name designation for it. 'Voodoo' is not a
copyrighted name. So if the customer decided to call it 'Voodoo'
& it's approved by PAG after feasibility study, the requested name
would be also approved for it! The color might be identical to
Toyota's 'Voodoo Blue'...or not. But the customer had the right
to call it that regardless.
4) Having said all of that, it would not surprise me if the original
PTS request for 'Voodoo Blue' (which was done on a .2 997 I believe)
came from someone that thought he/she was trying to duplicate the
FJ Cruiser's color. Whether Z12 indeed approximates Toyota's 'Voodoo'
remains yet to be determined. I encourage someone with the ability
to do a scientific investigation of the colors via a spectrophotometer
to solve this mystery for us.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Marathon, Texas
****
identical, you may ask? Well, I think it gets back to what I wrote
yesterday. See highlighted text in 'red'!
2) Hp1: There is no correlation between any other manufacturer's
color code (e.g. Voodoo Toyota 8t6) & the color code Porsche assigns
to a hue that they approve (e.g. Porsche Z12). PAG color code system
is unique to that manufacturers. And it frankly doesn't prove, or disprove,
anything that the internal color codes for 'Voodoo' are not the same at
Toyota & Porsche.
3) PTS is customer driven. So a customer has to request a color
by submitting a sample and then Porsche does a feasibility study
for coverage, fading, et al. on the different surfaces (plastic, steel,
aluminum, magnesium, etc) on a particular Porsche model. It is
then approved or not. If the requested color is NOT a vintage/
historic Porsche color that has a previous association with the
marque (e.g. 'Signal Orange' or 'Gulf Blue'), the requesting PTS
customer can decide WHAT to call the color he/she requested.
So it can be 'Hot Rod Pink Metallic'; or 'Pink Shoe'; or....
'Voodoo Blue'. More than likely the person at PAG that
received the customer's 'Voodoo Blue' sample did not question
the customer's color name designation for it. 'Voodoo' is not a
copyrighted name. So if the customer decided to call it 'Voodoo'
& it's approved by PAG after feasibility study, the requested name
would be also approved for it! The color might be identical to
Toyota's 'Voodoo Blue'...or not. But the customer had the right
to call it that regardless.
4) Having said all of that, it would not surprise me if the original
PTS request for 'Voodoo Blue' (which was done on a .2 997 I believe)
came from someone that thought he/she was trying to duplicate the
FJ Cruiser's color. Whether Z12 indeed approximates Toyota's 'Voodoo'
remains yet to be determined....
color code (e.g. Voodoo Toyota 8t6) & the color code Porsche assigns
to a hue that they approve (e.g. Porsche Z12). PAG color code system
is unique to that manufacturers. And it frankly doesn't prove, or disprove,
anything that the internal color codes for 'Voodoo' are not the same at
Toyota & Porsche.
3) PTS is customer driven. So a customer has to request a color
by submitting a sample and then Porsche does a feasibility study
for coverage, fading, et al. on the different surfaces (plastic, steel,
aluminum, magnesium, etc) on a particular Porsche model. It is
then approved or not. If the requested color is NOT a vintage/
historic Porsche color that has a previous association with the
marque (e.g. 'Signal Orange' or 'Gulf Blue'), the requesting PTS
customer can decide WHAT to call the color he/she requested.
So it can be 'Hot Rod Pink Metallic'; or 'Pink Shoe'; or....
'Voodoo Blue'. More than likely the person at PAG that
received the customer's 'Voodoo Blue' sample did not question
the customer's color name designation for it. 'Voodoo' is not a
copyrighted name. So if the customer decided to call it 'Voodoo'
& it's approved by PAG after feasibility study, the requested name
would be also approved for it! The color might be identical to
Toyota's 'Voodoo Blue'...or not. But the customer had the right
to call it that regardless.
4) Having said all of that, it would not surprise me if the original
PTS request for 'Voodoo Blue' (which was done on a .2 997 I believe)
came from someone that thought he/she was trying to duplicate the
FJ Cruiser's color. Whether Z12 indeed approximates Toyota's 'Voodoo'
remains yet to be determined....
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
.
03-07-2016, 06:44 PM
#458
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
03-08-2016, 01:52 PM
#459
Burning Brakes
I recently had some interesting discussions on this subject with
Rennlisters Hp1 & others in the 991 gt3 forum which shed some
light on the similarities & differences between these two colors:
Back in August of 2015 I posted the following:
"Or 'Voodoo Blau'. We assume that the similarly
named Toyoya FJ Cruiser color was the inspiration
for that particular request but have no proof."
Since that date, I have engaged in some very informative
exchanges re: the color formula for Toyota's 'Voodoo' vs
Porsche's 'Voodoo' which I think might be interesting to
others reading this thread:
****
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...l#post13039433
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
.
Rennlisters Hp1 & others in the 991 gt3 forum which shed some
light on the similarities & differences between these two colors:
Back in August of 2015 I posted the following:
"Or 'Voodoo Blau'. We assume that the similarly
named Toyoya FJ Cruiser color was the inspiration
for that particular request but have no proof."
Since that date, I have engaged in some very informative
exchanges re: the color formula for Toyota's 'Voodoo' vs
Porsche's 'Voodoo' which I think might be interesting to
others reading this thread:
****
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...l#post13039433
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
.
03-08-2016, 02:24 PM
#460
Intermediate
Just got the message that production of my Spyder is moved from week 7 to week 13?! A 6 weeks delay!
Of course they can not give me a reason why...just that it can change again the coming weeks
Does anybody know whether they increase production allocation and/or until when they forsee production of the outgoing 981?
Of course they can not give me a reason why...just that it can change again the coming weeks
Does anybody know whether they increase production allocation and/or until when they forsee production of the outgoing 981?
Difficult to say whether this is a SPEED yellow one, but if it is, it might be mine
03-08-2016, 02:42 PM
#461
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
03-08-2016, 04:28 PM
#463
03-09-2016, 03:28 AM
#464
Intermediate
That's what I learnt in the meantime
Initially I opted for the steelbrakes as I did not wanted to risk any color difference on the yellow. I even dropped the yellow stitching and seatbelt.
My SA offered me to color code the calipers in speed yellow.
(okay and having had some negative experience with the PCCB's on my 987 Spyder)
Than I read on this forum PCCB calipers are in speedyellow
Phoned my SA to upgrade the brakes, but then it was too late to change the build
Now I'm even in doubt of colorcoding the calipers speedyellow as this seems to me too fake now
Guess I'll be having the red calipers under a speed yellow car afterall
