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jonathangt4 08-31-2015 09:49 PM

PDK vs Manual
 
There's been a lot of speculation going around about PDK option for the GT4 future builds. If this is a go , what would you opt for? PDK or a manual? I have an allocation set for around this time next year... I'd love to drive a manual but if PDK means better performance than i may just opt for that..:icon107:

ShakeNBake 08-31-2015 09:51 PM

One of the main reasons I'm even buying a GT4 is that it's a manual. If it were PDK only, I'd be looking at a 350R. I'd get a GT3 if I wanted an auto.

ChrisF 08-31-2015 09:51 PM

If they offer it and I can get an allocation, I would sell mine. I love the involvement of the manual but I'd kill for this car as the best dual purpose DD/track whore ever made for around 100k.

jphughan 08-31-2015 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by ChrisF (Post 12554228)
If they offer it and I can get an allocation, I would sell mine. I love the involvement of the manual but I'd kill for this car as the best dual purpose DD/track whore ever made for around 100k.

I plan to DD mine at least initially, but between the low ride height, long overhang, and OEM tire choice, I think this is far more track-biased than DD biased. I agree that if the price point is kept narrowly around $100K it might be the best contender (although the Boxster Spyder would give it a major run for its money), but if you look at lower price points, other cars like the Cayman GTS, GT350, and M3/4 I think make a much better DD proposition while still retaining track chops. I guess it just depends which one you want more of, and considering I'm moving from an E9x M3 to a GT4, I guess I've answered that question for myself. Way back when, Motor Trend called the 2009 M3 Sedan the best all-around car ever made partly because it struck the balance you describe so well and so much better than anything else at the time.

mm1 08-31-2015 10:12 PM

As much as I like PDK, after 2 weeks of having the manual it's the best drivers car there is (imo).

I'd MAYBE "upgrade" to PDK if some other options were also added in the PDK version. I'm slightly biased for my wife to be able to drive the car too. I also was stuck in traffic for 20 minutes and I forgot how much that sucks with manual.

fishing 08-31-2015 10:24 PM

PDK will likely be an option priced over $5,000 with the sport chrono package. I would probably opt for the manual, which is soooo...nice! I would only buy the PDK for different reasons than most--to left foot brake and enable my wife to drive the car.


Originally Posted by jphughan (Post 12554247)
I plan to DD mine at least initially, but between the low ride height, long overhang, and OEM tire choice, I think this is far more track-biased than DD biased. I agree that if the price point is kept narrowly around $100K it might be the best contender (although the Boxster Spyder would give it a major run for its money), but if you look at lower price points, other cars like the Cayman GTS, GT350, and M3/4 I think make a much better DD proposition while still retaining track chops. I guess it just depends which one you want more of, and considering I'm moving from an E9x M3 to a GT4, I guess I've answered that question for myself. Way back when, Motor Trend called the 2009 M3 Sedan the best all-around car ever made partly because it struck the balance you describe so well and so much better than anything else at the time.

You are going to be pleasantly surprised how mild mannered this car is for DD use. Ingress and egress is easy. Suspension is not jarring but actually comfortable and firm. Exhaust is perfect. The biggest issue is overhang/scraping which is very similar to my CR.

Mike J 08-31-2015 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by fishing (Post 12554328)
Ingress and egress is easy. Suspension is not jarring but actually comfortable and firm. Exhaust is perfect. The biggest issue is overhang/scraping which is very similar to my CR.

What seats do you have?

Brian 96C2 08-31-2015 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by jonathangt4 (Post 12554218)
There's been a lot of speculation going around about PDK option for the GT4 future builds. If this is a go , what would you opt for? PDK or a manual? I have an allocation set for around this time next year... I'd love to drive a manual but if PDK means better performance than i may just opt for that..:icon107:

Have you driven a GT4 yet?

fishing 08-31-2015 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by Mike J (Post 12554349)
What seats do you have?

My car has the 18 ways.

konaforever 08-31-2015 10:59 PM

Manual all the way. That's the reason I got rid of my GTR.

Selo 08-31-2015 11:06 PM

I'm bored when I drive an automatic. Any automatic. It's OK when I'm driving my 7 series, but truth be told, I'd take that in a MT too if they made it.
I missed the opportunity to buy a GT3 or turbo in a real manual, so the second this was announced I started making calls.

IrishAndy 08-31-2015 11:08 PM

I thought the whole point about the GT4 concept was about maximum involvement and emotion vs. technology and pure lap times (GT3). After making one of the most enthusiast-pleasing moves in a long time, could the GT department really slip up again that quickly? Probably, but I hope not.

There are a million other ways to get into a PDK sports car in the Porsche world... (In fact with every other model they make). Can't there be one single manual-only Porsche left in the world?

Accel Junky 08-31-2015 11:22 PM

I hope they don't sell it with a PDK. That'll dilute what the GT4 stands for. But who am I kidding...even the new Z06 comes in an auto and sells like hotcakes...

mm1 08-31-2015 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by Accel Junky (Post 12554543)
I hope they don't sell it with a PDK. That'll dilute what the GT4 stands for. But who am I kidding...even the new Z06 comes in an auto and sells like hotcakes...

Totally agree. I think the GT4 should stay manual and if they made a GT4RS then go with the fastest option for pure track applications. MSRP of say 115k with Sport Chrono, LWBs, and a few interesting color options all included (what am I smoking now).

jphughan 08-31-2015 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by Accel Junky (Post 12554543)
I hope they don't sell it with a PDK. That'll dilute what the GT4 stands for. But who am I kidding...even the new Z06 comes in an auto and sells like hotcakes...

This. If a PDK GT4 were created, I would have to seriously reconsider the value in getting my intended vanity plate "LOL PDK".


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