Next-Gen Cayenne?
05-31-2018, 02:44 PM
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Next-Gen Cayenne?
A friend of mine is anxious to purchase a next-gen Cayenne and asked me about purchasing one from Europe and shipping it here to the U.S. I don't know anything about this. Can it be done? Is it expensive?
Any advice is appreciated.
Any advice is appreciated.
06-01-2018, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave_D
A friend of mine is anxious to purchase a next-gen Cayenne and asked me about purchasing one from Europe and shipping it here to the U.S. I don't know anything about this. Can it be done? Is it expensive?
Any advice is appreciated.
Any advice is appreciated.
06-01-2018, 06:49 PM
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Why would you even consider it. Porsches in eu are significantly more expensive than in the us. The difference between EU and US pricing is sometimes as high as 20% for certain models.
Apart from the price issue, it's doable, just gotta pay for shipping and be able to prove that car is built to US spec. Most cars nowadays are "world cars" but check with someone who's got experience importing exotic cars to the US. I know the process for Europe and it's not friendly in any way. Thia will ramp up the price even more...
Apart from the price issue, it's doable, just gotta pay for shipping and be able to prove that car is built to US spec. Most cars nowadays are "world cars" but check with someone who's got experience importing exotic cars to the US. I know the process for Europe and it's not friendly in any way. Thia will ramp up the price even more...
06-03-2018, 09:44 AM
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Buy through US dealer. Check-off European Delivery. Done.
If staying more than 15 days (IIRC) you have to pay for additional insurance.
If staying more than 15 days (IIRC) you have to pay for additional insurance.
06-03-2018, 01:54 PM
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I think, correct me if I am wrong, what everyone is missing is that Porsche will not be delivering US next gen Cayennes until 2019 calendar year. So it sounds like this person wants to jump the line by buying a European car in Europe and bringing it to the US. From what I have read about bringing new European vehicles to the US, even if some version of them is or will be on sale here, if is not downright impossible it certainly isn’t worth the hassle.
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06-04-2018, 12:58 AM
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That is correct. The underlying question is whether or not one can own one in the U.S. before they’re officially released here.
06-04-2018, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave_D
That is correct. The underlying question is whether or not one can own one in the U.S. before they’re officially released here.
Works both ways US -> EU and vice versa.
The only unknown for me is DOT compliance but as I said before, most cars today are "world cars" (especially premium brands) so DOT / EU compliance should not be an issue.
If OP REALLY wants MY19 sooner than everyone else, easiest thing to do is to create a shell limited liability company in some EU member state to register the car and ship it over to the US and drive on EU plates. Noone can prohibit you from driving around on a properly internationally registered car with insurance. Later the same company can sell you the car and you can import it and go through the hassle of getting it titled etc.
How many times you get pulled over and how much you pay in legal fees if some deputy decides to give you a hard time is another question. Your EU license plates will stand out like a green hat with an orange bell in the US.
06-04-2018, 04:44 PM
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Why not. I can buy one in the EU, ship it over on my EU plates and drive in the US. Then after a year I can transfer it to my US company and voila, you got yourself an EU pig in the US.
Works both ways US -> EU and vice versa.
The only unknown for me is DOT compliance but as I said before, most cars today are "world cars" (especially premium brands) so DOT / EU compliance should not be an issue.
If OP REALLY wants MY19 sooner than everyone else, easiest thing to do is to create a shell limited liability company in some EU member state to register the car and ship it over to the US and drive on EU plates. Noone can prohibit you from driving around on a properly internationally registered car with insurance. Later the same company can sell you the car and you can import it and go through the hassle of getting it titled etc.
How many times you get pulled over and how much you pay in legal fees if some deputy decides to give you a hard time is another question. Your EU license plates will stand out like a green hat with an orange bell in the US.
Works both ways US -> EU and vice versa.
The only unknown for me is DOT compliance but as I said before, most cars today are "world cars" (especially premium brands) so DOT / EU compliance should not be an issue.
If OP REALLY wants MY19 sooner than everyone else, easiest thing to do is to create a shell limited liability company in some EU member state to register the car and ship it over to the US and drive on EU plates. Noone can prohibit you from driving around on a properly internationally registered car with insurance. Later the same company can sell you the car and you can import it and go through the hassle of getting it titled etc.
How many times you get pulled over and how much you pay in legal fees if some deputy decides to give you a hard time is another question. Your EU license plates will stand out like a green hat with an orange bell in the US.
06-04-2018, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Andial
You can't do any of what you are proposing in reality. Only works from US to EU.
Who can stop me from driving an EU registered car in the US? Show me the law that says my EU company can not lend me a car and I can not drive it in the US.
I'm not saying it's not thin ice. I'm showing a path.
06-05-2018, 05:52 PM
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I've seen at least a dozen cars in FL with EU tags. And they are there since at least 2012.
Who can stop me from driving an EU registered car in the US? Show me the law that says my EU company can not lend me a car and I can not drive it in the US.
I'm not saying it's not thin ice. I'm showing a path.
Who can stop me from driving an EU registered car in the US? Show me the law that says my EU company can not lend me a car and I can not drive it in the US.
I'm not saying it's not thin ice. I'm showing a path.
06-06-2018, 08:55 AM
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However, I am virtually certain that an individual or private company cannot just ship-in a car they or it owns without going through the import process. For a 25-year-old car it is - I have read - a navigable, albeit expensive, process, but for a 0-year-old car I can’t see it happening.
On the other hand if you ‘know a guy’ at each stage of the process you could probably get it out of the port. After that? I wonder what would happen the first time the PIWIS is plugged in or the first time it’s stopped by Buford T Justice?
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06-06-2018, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Andial
Fake EU tags. US Government and local LEOs can stop you, let alone even being able to import the car in the first place. I am no lawyer, so I can't quote any laws, but it is illegal.
I know it's hard to fathom but I can get into a car and be in 4 different countries within 4 hours right now (from Slovakia to Poland, through Czech republic to Austria and then Hungary and back to Slovakia). Who can stop me from doing that same for the US? Noone.
You want an MY 2019 cayenne sooner than anyone else? Start thinking outside the box.