Camera Placement Recommnedations
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Camera Placement Recommnedations
I recently installed a VBox in my car. After reviewing video from my first few sessions, I noticed that the camera is picking up reflections from the car's interior (dashboard, center console, myself, etc) under certain lighting conditions (position of the sun, direction of the car, etc). I'm able to see the video footage that I want to see but the reflections are a bit of a nuisance/distraction and it would be great if I could eliminate the reflection images.
Rather than go through a bunch of trial and error experimentation, I thought I'd come to this group with a request for advice/suggestions.
Anyone have any camera placement recommendations?
Rather than go through a bunch of trial and error experimentation, I thought I'd come to this group with a request for advice/suggestions.
Anyone have any camera placement recommendations?
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Polarization filter.
On placement camera 1 should be as high and centrally located at the top of the windshield as possible. You need to see the car’s relationship to the edges of the road.
camera 2 can be over your shoulder and down aimed at the centerline of the the steering wheel or anywhere where the background is predominantly dark.or, insides the rear glass looking back.
On placement camera 1 should be as high and centrally located at the top of the windshield as possible. You need to see the car’s relationship to the edges of the road.
camera 2 can be over your shoulder and down aimed at the centerline of the the steering wheel or anywhere where the background is predominantly dark.or, insides the rear glass looking back.
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@ProCoach based on what I see on their web site, it doesn’t appear that Racelogic offers polarization filters for their cameras. My car isn’t readily available, but as soon as I get it back from the shop I’m going to see if the garmin catalyst polarization filter fits. Meanwhile, I thought I’d ask if anyone is aware of any turnkey solutions.
anyone know of any polarization filters that work with the vbox cameras out of the box?
anyone know of any polarization filters that work with the vbox cameras out of the box?
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I recently installed a VBox in my car. After reviewing video from my first few sessions, I noticed that the camera is picking up reflections from the car's interior (dashboard, center console, myself, etc) under certain lighting conditions (position of the sun, direction of the car, etc). I'm able to see the video footage that I want to see but the reflections are a bit of a nuisance/distraction and it would be great if I could eliminate the reflection images.
Rather than go through a bunch of trial and error experimentation, I thought I'd come to this group with a request for advice/suggestions.
Anyone have any camera placement recommendations?
Rather than go through a bunch of trial and error experimentation, I thought I'd come to this group with a request for advice/suggestions.
Anyone have any camera placement recommendations?
Highly recommend that you put the forward facing camera as close to rear view mirror, centered, as possible. It gives a natural FOV similar to what you see through your eyes.
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i recently installed a vbox video hd2 system. here is my setup.
forward camera i use a blendmount rearview mirror mount and a custom 3d printed gopro mount for the vbox camera, so it does not hang down in my view. i 3d printed a polarizer filter holder for 52mm filters, but i found that my Xpel 0% front window tint causes a rainbow effort (tried multiple brand filters) * shrug *
for the drivers camera, i just used the suction cups on the upper right part of the windshield
for the HD2 unit itself, i got the rollbar mount, but it only works with 1.5 inch bars, my roll bar is from competition motorsport and is 1.75 inches, so i 3d printed a rollbar mount.
i also 3d printed a little mount of the gps antennae, since i didn't want to mess with mounting it outside with the carbon fiber roof and aluminum panels, so i used a RAM mount arm to make sure it goes over the rear deck and has clear level line of sight out the rear window. i have had zero problems with the GPS signal this way.
i have the microphone under the rear deck carpeting, set to manual gain +3. seems to be the right amount of engine / exhaust noise, zero wind noise being under the carpeting.
for the CAN bus signals, i had to work with Racelogic tech support for 992 GT3 signals. out of the box it did not work. Needed custom CAN bus database (from tech support) for proper steering angle, RPM > 8000, brake pressure (bar), and current gear. The rest of the can bus symbols worked from the can database from the downloads section of their website for the regular 992 vehicle.
also i have the cameras with the 6 meter cables, so i ran the cables down the A pillar, along the floor/side and then up under the rear carpeting for a very clean install.
have the OLED display mounted with a rennline dash mount for 992. i got some 17mm ball mount from amazon to attach the OLED display. run the cables under the center console, under the rear carpeting.
here is the final video sample, in this video i don't have the polarizer on, i still trying to work out if i can find a polarizer that doesn't cause weird rainbow effect with my Xpel tint, so for now, having some reflections is better for me.
sorry the front camera was turned a bit and i forgot to adjust this.
forward camera i use a blendmount rearview mirror mount and a custom 3d printed gopro mount for the vbox camera, so it does not hang down in my view. i 3d printed a polarizer filter holder for 52mm filters, but i found that my Xpel 0% front window tint causes a rainbow effort (tried multiple brand filters) * shrug *
for the drivers camera, i just used the suction cups on the upper right part of the windshield
for the HD2 unit itself, i got the rollbar mount, but it only works with 1.5 inch bars, my roll bar is from competition motorsport and is 1.75 inches, so i 3d printed a rollbar mount.
i also 3d printed a little mount of the gps antennae, since i didn't want to mess with mounting it outside with the carbon fiber roof and aluminum panels, so i used a RAM mount arm to make sure it goes over the rear deck and has clear level line of sight out the rear window. i have had zero problems with the GPS signal this way.
i have the microphone under the rear deck carpeting, set to manual gain +3. seems to be the right amount of engine / exhaust noise, zero wind noise being under the carpeting.
for the CAN bus signals, i had to work with Racelogic tech support for 992 GT3 signals. out of the box it did not work. Needed custom CAN bus database (from tech support) for proper steering angle, RPM > 8000, brake pressure (bar), and current gear. The rest of the can bus symbols worked from the can database from the downloads section of their website for the regular 992 vehicle.
also i have the cameras with the 6 meter cables, so i ran the cables down the A pillar, along the floor/side and then up under the rear carpeting for a very clean install.
have the OLED display mounted with a rennline dash mount for 992. i got some 17mm ball mount from amazon to attach the OLED display. run the cables under the center console, under the rear carpeting.
here is the final video sample, in this video i don't have the polarizer on, i still trying to work out if i can find a polarizer that doesn't cause weird rainbow effect with my Xpel tint, so for now, having some reflections is better for me.
sorry the front camera was turned a bit and i forgot to adjust this.
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The blend mount is a very elegant solution. I would want it higher, so you can see more of the edges of the car and their relationship to the edges of the road, but that'll do.
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I mounted my VBox to a 1.75" cage using brackets available from Pegasus (https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr....asp?RecID=270) which replace exactly those supplied by Racelogic. A little pricey but ease of use is top shelf.
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I mounted my VBox to a 1.75" cage using brackets available from Pegasus (https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr....asp?RecID=270) which replace exactly those supplied by Racelogic. A little pricey but ease of use is top shelf.
The standard Racelogic mount clamps are 1.625" same size as a GT3 Cup cage tube.
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Here are the mounts for the small cage cars (1.5") https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr....asp?RecID=269
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@build.bat your set-up is very impressive. Any chance you can share a picture of the polarizer filter holder installed? Also curious, where'd you buy your polarizer filter?
3d print modelsi used threaded inserts into the 3d prints when bolts were needed or 1/4 threaded insert for the GPS mount to attached to a standard tripod ballfor the hand bolt on the low-profile gopro camera bracket, i used these:
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Very impressive… thanks for sharing!!
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The lens hood is really cool. What polarizing filter do you use?
I wouldn't be able to use the GpS mount, as the proper operation requires a metal backing directly (ground plane) for it to function optimally. It's clever, but GPS is critical for all the proper Racelogic acceleration, position and speed measurements.
https://en.racelogic.support/VBOX_Automotive/Knowledge_Base/GNSS_Antenna_Placement_and_Setup
I wouldn't be able to use the GpS mount, as the proper operation requires a metal backing directly (ground plane) for it to function optimally. It's clever, but GPS is critical for all the proper Racelogic acceleration, position and speed measurements.
https://en.racelogic.support/VBOX_Automotive/Knowledge_Base/GNSS_Antenna_Placement_and_Setup
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