iRacing data analysis
03-12-2018, 04:29 PM
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iRacing data analysis
Not sure if it's better to ask this here or in the main Racing forum, but I'm guessing this is the spot. I'm looking for suggestions on the "best" way to analyze data from iRacing. I'd love to be able to look at the data in AIM software, as that's what I use IRL, but what I'm seeing mostly from the Google is Atlas (which I tried and hated), and Motec. Any advice on what way to go, and any comments on a workflow?
03-12-2018, 06:09 PM
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MoTeC (using the plug-in "mu" from iRacing forums) is the daddy. ATLAS sucks, IMO.
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03-12-2018, 08:13 PM
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There are MANY good "beginner guides" to using MoTeC, particularly within iRacing, to analyze data using an iRacing workbook. It's really cool and the community is very helpful.
03-22-2018, 06:23 PM
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I've been down this path already. Some observations from the user end...
The version of i2pro that is recommended on the iRacing website/forum posts is old. I'm using the latest/greatest 64-bit i2pro with data spit out from the mu converter program with no problems. The downside to starting this way is that the workbooks that are pre-made for iRacing are the older style and won't work with the newer version of the i2pro. The upside is that using the newer version has [unsurprisingly] more features and performance. I actually think that the changes they made in going from workbooks (old) to workspaces (new) make it a lot easier to add new sheets and the various display elements. I found that many of the iRacing workbooks were overly complicated anyway and not maintained much so I'd say it's easier to start from scratch and make what you need in the newer i2pro -- certainly cleaner and more maintainable for you if you do the first pass construction. I think I put in a couple of hours and had a quite usable workspace for the channels I look at without too much hassle. I did this from looking at the included example and the extensive online help and I did it before...
Full disclosure, I've taken Chris' class as recommended above and can't recommend it highly enough -- do both the Intro to Motec and the Driver Coaching with Data days if you can...both very valuable even for just iRacing purposes.
Since taking that class I have re-visited my workspace and now I have a bunch more math and more sheets in my workspace for looking at particular things. FWIW, I've also made a matching workspace, in terms of pages and elements on them (the channel names I haven't bothered to alias but you could so then they'd look exactly the same) for both Assetto Corsa and my real world GT4 -- so now I look at data from all those sources in one set of tools. I find that quite useful!
The version of i2pro that is recommended on the iRacing website/forum posts is old. I'm using the latest/greatest 64-bit i2pro with data spit out from the mu converter program with no problems. The downside to starting this way is that the workbooks that are pre-made for iRacing are the older style and won't work with the newer version of the i2pro. The upside is that using the newer version has [unsurprisingly] more features and performance. I actually think that the changes they made in going from workbooks (old) to workspaces (new) make it a lot easier to add new sheets and the various display elements. I found that many of the iRacing workbooks were overly complicated anyway and not maintained much so I'd say it's easier to start from scratch and make what you need in the newer i2pro -- certainly cleaner and more maintainable for you if you do the first pass construction. I think I put in a couple of hours and had a quite usable workspace for the channels I look at without too much hassle. I did this from looking at the included example and the extensive online help and I did it before...
Full disclosure, I've taken Chris' class as recommended above and can't recommend it highly enough -- do both the Intro to Motec and the Driver Coaching with Data days if you can...both very valuable even for just iRacing purposes.
Since taking that class I have re-visited my workspace and now I have a bunch more math and more sheets in my workspace for looking at particular things. FWIW, I've also made a matching workspace, in terms of pages and elements on them (the channel names I haven't bothered to alias but you could so then they'd look exactly the same) for both Assetto Corsa and my real world GT4 -- so now I look at data from all those sources in one set of tools. I find that quite useful!
03-22-2018, 06:41 PM
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I've been down this path already. Some observations from the user end...
The version of i2pro that is recommended on the iRacing website/forum posts is old. I'm using the latest/greatest 64-bit i2pro with data spit out from the mu converter program with no problems. The downside to starting this way is that the workbooks that are pre-made for iRacing are the older style and won't work with the newer version of the i2pro. The upside is that using the newer version has [unsurprisingly] more features and performance. I actually think that the changes they made in going from workbooks (old) to workspaces (new) make it a lot easier to add new sheets and the various display elements. I found that many of the iRacing workbooks were overly complicated anyway and not maintained much so I'd say it's easier to start from scratch and make what you need in the newer i2pro -- certainly cleaner and more maintainable for you if you do the first pass construction. I think I put in a couple of hours and had a quite usable workspace for the channels I look at without too much hassle. I did this from looking at the included example and the extensive online help and I did it before...
Full disclosure, I've taken Chris' class as recommended above and can't recommend it highly enough -- do both the Intro to Motec and the Driver Coaching with Data days if you can...both very valuable even for just iRacing purposes.
Since taking that class I have re-visited my workspace and now I have a bunch more math and more sheets in my workspace for looking at particular things. FWIW, I've also made a matching workspace, in terms of pages and elements on them (the channel names I haven't bothered to alias but you could so then they'd look exactly the same) for both Assetto Corsa and my real world GT4 -- so now I look at data from all those sources in one set of tools. I find that quite useful!
The version of i2pro that is recommended on the iRacing website/forum posts is old. I'm using the latest/greatest 64-bit i2pro with data spit out from the mu converter program with no problems. The downside to starting this way is that the workbooks that are pre-made for iRacing are the older style and won't work with the newer version of the i2pro. The upside is that using the newer version has [unsurprisingly] more features and performance. I actually think that the changes they made in going from workbooks (old) to workspaces (new) make it a lot easier to add new sheets and the various display elements. I found that many of the iRacing workbooks were overly complicated anyway and not maintained much so I'd say it's easier to start from scratch and make what you need in the newer i2pro -- certainly cleaner and more maintainable for you if you do the first pass construction. I think I put in a couple of hours and had a quite usable workspace for the channels I look at without too much hassle. I did this from looking at the included example and the extensive online help and I did it before...
Full disclosure, I've taken Chris' class as recommended above and can't recommend it highly enough -- do both the Intro to Motec and the Driver Coaching with Data days if you can...both very valuable even for just iRacing purposes.
Since taking that class I have re-visited my workspace and now I have a bunch more math and more sheets in my workspace for looking at particular things. FWIW, I've also made a matching workspace, in terms of pages and elements on them (the channel names I haven't bothered to alias but you could so then they'd look exactly the same) for both Assetto Corsa and my real world GT4 -- so now I look at data from all those sources in one set of tools. I find that quite useful!
If you first download the old version of i2 Pro (1.0) and the worksheets, set it up and THEN update to i2 Pro 1.1 (current version), there is a worksheet to workbook archive import that works like a charm, saving a ton of time.
Chris is not only knowledgeable about MoTeC, he’s a great instructor and teacher.
Mind sharing the Assetto Corsa MoTeC .ld export plug in source?
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03-22-2018, 07:27 PM
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I tried that and it didn't work on some of the workbooks I tried -- not sure why. I suppose the other thing that motivated me to start again was that many of the workbooks floating about the iRacing forums have a lot of emphasis on tools to help work on setup for the car, suspension analysis and what not, which frankly aren't [for now anyway] all that interesting to me since the component I am most focused on tuning is the spacer between the seat and the steering wheel.
Chris is not only knowledgeable about MoTeC, he’s a great instructor and teacher.
Mind sharing the Assetto Corsa MoTeC .ld export plug in source?
03-22-2018, 07:34 PM
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Thanks!
03-29-2018, 07:21 PM
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Have you looked at VRS, Virtual Racing School and their free telemetry logger?
https://virtualracingschool.com/
https://virtualracingschool.com/
03-29-2018, 10:56 PM
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Have you looked at VRS, Virtual Racing School and their free telemetry logger?
https://youtu.be/4ITKv7XSA7Y?list=PL...GxpKXmNR-lnlwa
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03-30-2018, 09:26 AM
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What's exceptionally cool is if you create a team or league in iRacing you can cross compare data among drivers.
It's indeed very cool what they have built.
03-30-2018, 09:49 AM
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It's actually one of the best data interfaces in terms of simplicity I have seen. I wish AiM had a GUI like this for dummies like me
What's exceptionally cool is if you create a team or league in iRacing you can cross compare data among drivers.
It's indeed very cool what they have built.
What's exceptionally cool is if you create a team or league in iRacing you can cross compare data among drivers.
It's indeed very cool what they have built.