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Old 05-09-2008, 03:12 PM
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Is it advisable to have my car glazed?

I tried everything now, I polished it then had it buffed at a pane beater. I clayed and waxed it .................... I just can't get rid of the fine scratches all over the car. I had previous cars glazed and it worked but that mean I can not feed the paint with wax afterwords since its sealed.

Any advice??
Old 05-09-2008, 03:38 PM
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Moved to the Concours and Car Care forum where you will get some good expert advice.
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Glazing is temporary. It basically consists of oils which help hide the scratches and will wash off as soon as you clean or wipe it down.

Do you have enough paint to have it corrected.

Also what is your washing process as this could be causing the fine scratches after polishing.
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Moved to the Concours and Car Care forum where you will get some good expert advice.
Thanks, after being a member for years I never saw this forum.
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Originally Posted by Marine Blue
Glazing is temporary. It basically consists of oils which help hide the scratches and will wash off as soon as you clean or wipe it down.

Do you have enough paint to have it corrected.

Also what is your washing process as this could be causing the fine scratches after polishing.
I'm no expert but the glazing they do around here is guaranteed for a year after which they do a re glaze, or seal according to them, the company is called Auto Glaze I do not know whether they're international.

Do I have enough paint left, how do I determine that?
My washing technique careful and I believe correct, I've never had problems I bought this car like this two weeks ago so yes the PO probably used the wrong method.

I should probably add - my problem is not the car in my avatar its a guards red 944 Cab. https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-944-951-968-forum/427241-upgrading-my-my-my-baby.html
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What steps did you use to polish the car including equipment and products used?

Any good body shop should have a way to measure the thickness of paint. Hopefully someone will chime in with what the correct paint thickness is from the factory, I know the information is available but I don't know where to find it.
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Originally Posted by JohanvdWalt
Is it advisable to have my car glazed?

I tried everything now, I polished it then had it buffed at a pane beater. I clayed and waxed it .................... I just can't get rid of the fine scratches all over the car. I had previous cars glazed and it worked but that mean I can not feed the paint with wax afterwords since its sealed.

Any advice??
Yeah since you're on the other side of the great pond we use different lingo....eh?

So let's get on the right track. As MarineBlue stated over on this side of the pond the general meaning of the term "glaze" is used to describe a product with little to no abrasive properties. It's main function is to temporarily fill or hide paint imperfections so to most of us here a glaze will only last a short while, maybe 2 washes and that's it.

Most glazes are oily products that can cause more headache than good. So I would try and correct the paint using the proper pads and products, along with the right machines. Now this can be a very daunting task for the amateur so the services of a professional may be needed.....now an even greater task is finding a professional who is a true "professional". One that will actually correct your paint and then be able to give you advice on its proper up keep after. Start by asking others who they recommend....ask those people who you know are very picky.

The other route you can go is to get the needed equipment and do this yourself. It is challenging but can also be very rewarding and even therapeutic in a sense.

Your paint, without seeing any pictures, most likely needs to be leveled down and this means that a micro layer of paint, which is where the scratches reside in your paint, needs to be removed. The goal here is to get the paint as close to perfection as possible without damaging the paint. Your paint is most likely single stage (meaning it has no clear coat) and can be very much on the hard side. So trying to polish it out by hand won't work well unless you're the HULK.

If you're up for it I can do my best to coach you along, other wise you'll need to seek out a top notch professional.

Good Luck,
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Thanks Guys, I've always taken good care of my cars and kept them cleaner them average but I've never gone any further than that so this is totally new to me. Around here I do not know of any specialists in this field eccept for the Auto glaze guys, I've uesed them before and they do make a car look good but not to the level I want to go this time.

To the best of my knowledge the best products we have here is Meguiars, I used their Deep Crystal polish http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/S...?ProductId=300
I applied it by hand with no result at all, I then took the car to a body shop whom resprayed the front bumper and nose panel, I told them to buff the car, I then used Meguiar's Quick Clay with Quick Detailer followed by Meguiars Wax, which did improved matters a lot but its not near what it should be.

Its 18H30 here now and dark outside, I'll take and post some pics tomorrow.

I'd prefer to get the necessary equipment and do the job myself.
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Johan,

Here is a thread I just started that explains some basic paint correction instructions. Feel free to ask questions. https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/429517-polishing-paint-step-1-a.html

FYI, Meguiars professional products can usually be purchased from auto paint supply shops and Meguiars offers a full range of Polishing Pads, Polishes etc.
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Originally Posted by Marine Blue
Johan,

Here is a thread I just started that explains some basic paint correction instructions. Feel free to ask questions. https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=429517
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Thanks I did.



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