PCA Concours event- stupid questions
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Congratulations Julia!!!!! It really is a beautiful car with a great name! Nice trophy too!
Are you in the SVR? Do you know Tom Sisson?
Actually you have to be REALLY INSANE to do full Concours
Last year Robert just decided that since the parade was so close to us (Fort Worth is 4 hours from Hot Springs) we'd do Full Concours. Our car was already really clean to begin with, or so he thought. Undercarriage requires a lot of time to clean because, you never really know what the judge will decide to check and there are so many nooks and crannies under there. We do not have a lift in our garage. If the ceilings were higher I'm sure we would. For now, Robert jacks up the car and puts in to Jack Stands.That give him enough room to get under the car using his creepy crawler thing. He take a really bright light with him and slowy cleans away. Sometimes he gets high as a kit when he has a particulary bad spot to clean and uses brake cleaner. Not much ventilation going on under there! He's about 90% done with the undercarriage now. He cut the cleaning short becuase he is in Long Beach, CA picking up a "new" 356 for us. When you see one you like, you have to buy it rigth away, becuase if you don't someone else will, so Max sits waiting until dad gets home and back to work. I can do a few things while it's up, but I really don't like crawling about in the interior when it's on the jack stands!
You've got to drive a 356 one day. It's totally different than driving a 911. Sort of like the difference between driving a ricer bike and a Harley. 356's are like Harley's made for cruising. You have to get out of the let's go fast mind set, unless you have an outlaw
JoAnne
Are you in the SVR? Do you know Tom Sisson?
Actually you have to be REALLY INSANE to do full Concours
Last year Robert just decided that since the parade was so close to us (Fort Worth is 4 hours from Hot Springs) we'd do Full Concours. Our car was already really clean to begin with, or so he thought. Undercarriage requires a lot of time to clean because, you never really know what the judge will decide to check and there are so many nooks and crannies under there. We do not have a lift in our garage. If the ceilings were higher I'm sure we would. For now, Robert jacks up the car and puts in to Jack Stands.That give him enough room to get under the car using his creepy crawler thing. He take a really bright light with him and slowy cleans away. Sometimes he gets high as a kit when he has a particulary bad spot to clean and uses brake cleaner. Not much ventilation going on under there! He's about 90% done with the undercarriage now. He cut the cleaning short becuase he is in Long Beach, CA picking up a "new" 356 for us. When you see one you like, you have to buy it rigth away, becuase if you don't someone else will, so Max sits waiting until dad gets home and back to work. I can do a few things while it's up, but I really don't like crawling about in the interior when it's on the jack stands!
You've got to drive a 356 one day. It's totally different than driving a 911. Sort of like the difference between driving a ricer bike and a Harley. 356's are like Harley's made for cruising. You have to get out of the let's go fast mind set, unless you have an outlaw
JoAnne
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Hi JoAnne, thanks! Yes and yes. Tom Sisson is a great guy. He won 1st place with his 356 yesterday. He is our membership director and I am the Social Director of SVR. Tom does so much for our club. Maybe I can get him to take me for a ride in his car.
What year is your new baby? And what does HWFM mean?
Next season, I will probably try the Street class. Engine compartments spook me. I worry about getting electrocuted and getting water somewhere where it shouldn't be.
I had my car up on jack stands when I repainted my wheels (got 0 decuctions on wheels!) and cleaned the wheel wells pretty good. I would need it out in the driveway to hose it out and didn't want him stuck out there over night with his bottom exposed! We are in the process of turning out 2 car carport into a garage! Skippy must have a real garage. The architect came out Saturday and as soon as he is done with the plans, we'll get our permit and get going. The cars will have to be out in the driveway while it is being built.
What brand of polishes and waxes do you use? I used 3M Imperial Hand Glaze for the first time and was pretty happy with it. Then I used Rejex as a sealer. Love Rejex. I did have some hazing on my hood though which I got .50 deduction for. And I worked so hard on that.
What year is your new baby? And what does HWFM mean?
Next season, I will probably try the Street class. Engine compartments spook me. I worry about getting electrocuted and getting water somewhere where it shouldn't be.
I had my car up on jack stands when I repainted my wheels (got 0 decuctions on wheels!) and cleaned the wheel wells pretty good. I would need it out in the driveway to hose it out and didn't want him stuck out there over night with his bottom exposed! We are in the process of turning out 2 car carport into a garage! Skippy must have a real garage. The architect came out Saturday and as soon as he is done with the plans, we'll get our permit and get going. The cars will have to be out in the driveway while it is being built.
What brand of polishes and waxes do you use? I used 3M Imperial Hand Glaze for the first time and was pretty happy with it. Then I used Rejex as a sealer. Love Rejex. I did have some hazing on my hood though which I got .50 deduction for. And I worked so hard on that.
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that's fantastic, julia.
you know, my company gave PCA zone 7 several cases of RejeX to give to each class winner, for every show they're having this entire year.
i'm certainly glad you like RejeX, and thanks for posting your pics.
best regards,
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that's fantastic, julia.
you know, my company gave PCA zone 7 several cases of RejeX to give to each class winner, for every show they're having this entire year.
i'm certainly glad you like RejeX, and thanks for posting your pics.
best regards,
barry
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800-559-1192
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As a matter of fact, I got a bottle of Rejex with my win! We really do think Rejex is great. I went on the San Simeon Tour our club puts on and had more bugs than I can count on my car when I got home! I thought washing them off was going to be aweful and it wasn't. The bugs just slid right off. I practically just have to rinse my car these days. Great stuff and great shine! I use it on my headlights as well.
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Thanks, it was a lot of hard work, but worth it. Not just because I got 1st place (although I am happy about that) but because it one of those things that you get pleasure from for the fruits of your labor. Kind of like gardening, you work the soil and plants and you get beauty! I have to say, I now know every nook and crannie on this car!
#23
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Originally Posted by Julia
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What year is your new baby? And what does HWFM mean?
Next season, I will probably try the Street class. Engine compartments spook me. I worry about getting electrocuted and getting water somewhere where it shouldn't be................
What brand of polishes and waxes do you use? I used 3M Imperial Hand Glaze for the first time and was pretty happy with it. Then I used Rejex as a sealer. Love Rejex. I did have some hazing on my hood though which I got .50 deduction for. And I worked so hard on that.
What year is your new baby? And what does HWFM mean?
Next season, I will probably try the Street class. Engine compartments spook me. I worry about getting electrocuted and getting water somewhere where it shouldn't be................
What brand of polishes and waxes do you use? I used 3M Imperial Hand Glaze for the first time and was pretty happy with it. Then I used Rejex as a sealer. Love Rejex. I did have some hazing on my hood though which I got .50 deduction for. And I worked so hard on that.
It is not a Full Concours car, but after some good ol' cleaning and removal of the factory roll bar it can go touring (street) division in restoration class. I can't wait to see it. Robert drove all night and stopped at 5:30am at a truck stop somewhere in New Mexico for a couple of hours of sleep. He should be here late tonight or, if the weather thru OK is bad (as predicted), then it will be first thing in the morning. However, we can't spend too much time staring at it. We HAVE to finish Max for the Parade!!!
Max at the Fort Worth Parade last year. You can tell Robert was happy:
One year in Wash and Shine is a good thing to do. Sort of like cutting teeth. Is Tom still doing the Wash and Shine Class? Hmmmm....
Don't worry, you are not going to get electrocuted cleaning the engine. Get it steam cleaned professionaly at first, or if you are afraid of that, just do it all by hand using brake cleaners, gunk, etc. You may lose a few brain cells just from smellingthe stuff, but you will be super proud about how great your car looks as a whole. After that, you can then move on to full concours and do the undercarriage, then I will know that you are just as insane as we are!!! I mean, no one but you and the judges see the undercarriage, but there is something about a car that is so clean from top to bottom. I can't explain it.....
We have also used 3M Imperial Hand Glaze in the past and still do in certain instances. Now we are really big on using a ton of different Griots Garage products. Robert is a Clay fiend. He loves to clay the cars and the stuff really does work. I even like using the clay. You get to really feel your car. Sort of like the old days when we used Zymol and rubbed it all over the car. Something amazing about the connection. As for Rejax, Robert doesn't use any polymer type of products on the show cars. He doesn't really like anything that bonds to the paint. He is one of the old school guys that thinks paint has to "breath". We have seen Rejaxed cars and they look just great. He just worries about what they will still look like 5 years down the line. Do polymers stay on the car or with time, will they start to peel off? Maybe Barry will jump in here and explain a little more about Rejax products becuase I am very interested...... ANYWAY...... Hazing is a pain in the butt. We actually have a heated and cooled and dehumidified garage so we can control the temperature in there, especially when he is waxing a car. Just a little to warm and you can get the haze and the same if it's too cold. Humidity is the worst when it comes to hazing. Was it humid when you were waxing??
JoAnne
PS: HWFM is a imaginary team on the 993 board that we are part of. It's just for fun. Rigth now we are 993less, but I'm almost 98% positive we'll have one again.
PSS: Tell Tom Hi from me. And finally, I'm also the Membership Director of the Ozark Region of PCA. See?? We have a lot in common!!!
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Sacramento is pretty dry. It was warm though. BTW, your new baby is Beautiful!!! I am so envious. I want one, I want one, I want one!!
I called the guy at Care Care Specialists today because I used the Imperial Hand Glaze just on my hood and it was really hard to remove. He said I applied it too thick and in too big a section. He said to do a 12" square area then buff off and continue. I did that and it worked great. I told him I used Rejex last week and he was not too happy about that. He said it was more for marine use and that I should use a good Carnuba wax instead, especially for concours. He recommended P21S Carnuba Wax, so like every "newbie", I ordered some. I have been pleased with the results of Rejex, but he said you get better depth of shine with wax, but it doesn't last as long. I don't care about lasting long because I looooove to wax my car! I have 30 days to get Skippy perfect before the next show.
I will tell Tom hello for you.
I called the guy at Care Care Specialists today because I used the Imperial Hand Glaze just on my hood and it was really hard to remove. He said I applied it too thick and in too big a section. He said to do a 12" square area then buff off and continue. I did that and it worked great. I told him I used Rejex last week and he was not too happy about that. He said it was more for marine use and that I should use a good Carnuba wax instead, especially for concours. He recommended P21S Carnuba Wax, so like every "newbie", I ordered some. I have been pleased with the results of Rejex, but he said you get better depth of shine with wax, but it doesn't last as long. I don't care about lasting long because I looooove to wax my car! I have 30 days to get Skippy perfect before the next show.
I will tell Tom hello for you.
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Julia,
I forgot to tell you that we also use 3M Finesse II finishing glaze when we see any fine scratches or overspray on the car. Works GREAT every time. We also use a Porter Cable random orbital buffer.....
This is where Robert is right now as I type:
Undercarriages are so fun. I'm waiting for the Bug Man to leave so I can change and crawl under the car too. I need to get my hands up and around the places that Robert can't get to!
JoAnne
I forgot to tell you that we also use 3M Finesse II finishing glaze when we see any fine scratches or overspray on the car. Works GREAT every time. We also use a Porter Cable random orbital buffer.....
This is where Robert is right now as I type:
Undercarriages are so fun. I'm waiting for the Bug Man to leave so I can change and crawl under the car too. I need to get my hands up and around the places that Robert can't get to!
JoAnne
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I love your garage floor. We might do something like that when it's built. So many products...
That's Max up on jacks? Where did you find the new baby? In a few months we are going to start looking for a 356. For investment purposes, which model do you think has the most collectibility? A, B, C? Earlier, the better? I really like the A's.
That's Max up on jacks? Where did you find the new baby? In a few months we are going to start looking for a 356. For investment purposes, which model do you think has the most collectibility? A, B, C? Earlier, the better? I really like the A's.
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Originally Posted by Julia
I love your garage floor. We might do something like that when it's built. So many products...
That's Max up on jacks? Where did you find the new baby? In a few months we are going to start looking for a 356. For investment purposes, which model do you think has the most collectibility? A, B, C? Earlier, the better? I really like the A's.
That's Max up on jacks? Where did you find the new baby? In a few months we are going to start looking for a 356. For investment purposes, which model do you think has the most collectibility? A, B, C? Earlier, the better? I really like the A's.
Yes that is Max up on the jack stands. He is still up there tonight. Robert is almost done detailing the bottom half of the engine bay. Tomorrow I get to start in by doing the wheels and the tiny tight spots. Lots of work, but somehow it is theraputic, you know what I mean??
We found the new Baby in Long Beach, CA at John Willhoit's place:
www.willhoitautorestoration.com
John is one of the 356 So. Cal. Guru's. If you get a car through him, you know it's going to be a good one!!!! We bought this one sight unseen just on John's good word. We trust him that much.
Here's another seller of 356's in So. Cal: www.europeancollectables.com That is where we found Max. We bought him only two days after he came into the showroom. It was all about timing with that buy. We've done quite a lot of work to him to make him better, but it was a great car to begin with.
When you are ready to buy a 356 what ever you do, remember it's a very old car and not a 911. It takes a totally different mind set. Sort of like the difference between being a Harley owner and an owner of a Rice Rocket. What ever you do always get a PPI!!!
JoAnne
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Hi JoAnne,
We looked at a 1964 356C today. It is pretty nice, but would need new paint because it has a repaint in not the original color of gray. It is silver now and has a green interior which I do like. It has two little dents that would not be an issue, but we don't think we don't want to buy a car knowing we have to repaint it, unless the price was lower. He is asking $17, 500 for it and also has it on E-Bay.
I have a little issue with Skippy's felt trunk liner that I need to fix. It has a small bleached out spot from the battery acid (I'm guessing at that). I am going to try a mix of black and white liquid shoe polish (to make gray) to see if I can match it up and then dab it on to blend. Any ideas other than that and a replacement!
We looked at a 1964 356C today. It is pretty nice, but would need new paint because it has a repaint in not the original color of gray. It is silver now and has a green interior which I do like. It has two little dents that would not be an issue, but we don't think we don't want to buy a car knowing we have to repaint it, unless the price was lower. He is asking $17, 500 for it and also has it on E-Bay.
I have a little issue with Skippy's felt trunk liner that I need to fix. It has a small bleached out spot from the battery acid (I'm guessing at that). I am going to try a mix of black and white liquid shoe polish (to make gray) to see if I can match it up and then dab it on to blend. Any ideas other than that and a replacement!