Concours Question.....Changeover to Rotiforms
03-22-2019, 04:11 PM
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Concours Question.....Changeover to Rotiforms
I purchased a 911-50 last summer with 2,000 miles on the clock. I found that it was impossible to remove some (soap?) residue from in and around the lug nut areas. It has affected my scores twice. I am deciding on either having the wheels refinished or trading to a ROTIFORM three piece Fuchs stylized wheel.
Who if anyone, has had experience showing their ride with aftermarket wheels as far as a points reduction in Concours?
I purposely am not showing the wheel, as I do not want to sway the responses.
Thanks!
Who if anyone, has had experience showing their ride with aftermarket wheels as far as a points reduction in Concours?
I purposely am not showing the wheel, as I do not want to sway the responses.
Thanks!
03-23-2019, 01:42 PM
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I purchased a 911-50 last summer with 2,000 miles on the clock. I found that it was impossible to remove some (soap?) residue from in and around the lug nut areas. It has affected my scores twice. I am deciding on either having the wheels refinished or trading to a ROTIFORM three piece Fuchs stylized wheel.
Who if anyone, has had experience showing their ride with aftermarket wheels as far as a points reduction in Concours?
I purposely am not showing the wheel, as I do not want to sway the responses.
Thanks!
Who if anyone, has had experience showing their ride with aftermarket wheels as far as a points reduction in Concours?
I purposely am not showing the wheel, as I do not want to sway the responses.
Thanks!
03-26-2019, 04:37 AM
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Much of this will really depend on which class you’re showing in and which concours. For example if your showing in the PCA unrestored (preservation) class then anything that is not original to the car will be considered a deduction. If you’re showing in PCA full, street or show & shine then you can get away with tasteful modifications as long as they’re in perfect condition. I showed my 964 last summer with RUF wheels installed, they were refinished when I bought them and they’re as new so no points deducted in street class.
Concours outside of PCA can be more picky and will be judge dependent. In those instances you should ask the judge up front if certain modifications are acceptable.
Good luck either way. Concours seems to be on a steady decline as people are either losing interest in the “show” aspect and or don’t have the patience for it. I only do it to further improve my cars and or keep them preserved to a high level and having someone else inspect what I may have overlooked or missed just helps me to continue improving the cars.
Concours outside of PCA can be more picky and will be judge dependent. In those instances you should ask the judge up front if certain modifications are acceptable.
Good luck either way. Concours seems to be on a steady decline as people are either losing interest in the “show” aspect and or don’t have the patience for it. I only do it to further improve my cars and or keep them preserved to a high level and having someone else inspect what I may have overlooked or missed just helps me to continue improving the cars.
03-26-2019, 11:56 AM
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Much of this will really depend on which class you’re showing in and which concours. For example if your showing in the PCA unrestored (preservation) class then anything that is not original to the car will be considered a deduction. If you’re showing in PCA full, street or show & shine then you can get away with tasteful modifications as long as they’re in perfect condition. I showed my 964 last summer with RUF wheels installed, they were refinished when I bought them and they’re as new so no points deducted in street class.
Concours outside of PCA can be more picky and will be judge dependent. In those instances you should ask the judge up front if certain modifications are acceptable.
Good luck either way. Concours seems to be on a steady decline as people are either losing interest in the “show” aspect and or don’t have the patience for it. I only do it to further improve my cars and or keep them preserved to a high level and having someone else inspect what I may have overlooked or missed just helps me to continue improving the cars.
Concours outside of PCA can be more picky and will be judge dependent. In those instances you should ask the judge up front if certain modifications are acceptable.
Good luck either way. Concours seems to be on a steady decline as people are either losing interest in the “show” aspect and or don’t have the patience for it. I only do it to further improve my cars and or keep them preserved to a high level and having someone else inspect what I may have overlooked or missed just helps me to continue improving the cars.
There are "First Place" trophys on the shelf for the Cayman and the Z06, however; I found the 911 judging to be much more "rigorous".
On this issue of prepping for the show.....Folks ask me all the time about why I "waste my time" picking out dust specks with a tweezers and duct tape....my response is, "Hey, it's cheaper than a psychiatrist!" To paraphrase the oldest Honda Motorbike ad..."You meet the nicest people at the Concours"!
Thanks for your input
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03-26-2019, 05:43 PM
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I used to live in the South Shore and also showed and judged at the Larz Museum PCA Concours, I have a few trophies from that time. I also showed at the PCA concours in Long Island when I had my 928 back in 2010, I have a first place for that too. That was the show that introduced me to the Spyder and once I saw it my 928 days were numbered.
Both are great venues and yes, great people. Good luck.
Both are great venues and yes, great people. Good luck.