Notices
Cayenne 958 - 2011-2018 2nd Generation
Sponsored By:
Sponsored By:

2016 Cayenne auto start/stop: ARRRRRRRGH!!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-25-2016, 03:47 PM
  #46  
fpena944
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
fpena944's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 9,379
Received 84 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

On my 2011 CTT we turned it off once and it's been off since.

Whatever gas savings it offers is probably minimal compared to the constant on and off when in stop and go traffic. I don't have the strange exhaust issue that's been mentioned (maybe because I have an aftermarket Fabspeed on the car?) and enjoy listening to the v8 purr.
Old 08-25-2016, 05:00 PM
  #47  
t-design
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
t-design's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 673
Received 250 Likes on 164 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by fpena944
On my 2011 CTT we turned it off once and it's been off since.
Yеah, that was in the days when you could choose things... Not anymore. Not from the factory at least
__________________
T-Design9 : Mods and ergonomic accessories bespoke designed for Porsche cars
Memory Modules : remember SC **** settings; A/S/S, PSE, Spoiler, Sport/+ buttons
Phone Mounts : keep your phone up and close and charged
Cupdholders, Sunglass Holsters and more at T-Design9.com




Old 08-30-2016, 04:05 PM
  #48  
phatchunk99
Advanced
 
phatchunk99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 67
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by jtsmith18
Brought my 2016 to the dealer to check for the brake pedal clip, and asked them to reflash the computer in case they made changes to the auto stop start. Now it has to be almost at a complete stop before it shuts down. Before it shut off at 4 km/hr which was really dumb.
Would you provide any details on the "reflash"? What does it say on your service summary report? I made an appt with my dealer for Thursday and mentioned to the service guy on the phone about a software update to fix the premature auto stop and he had no clue what I was talking about.
Old 06-12-2017, 12:08 PM
  #49  
t-design
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
t-design's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 673
Received 250 Likes on 164 Posts
Default

Guys,

We cracked the Auto/Start/Stop on Cayenne 958. T-Design9.com now offers a memory module version for Cayenne. It will remember A/S/S, sport, and PSE setting for you!

Old 06-15-2017, 01:36 PM
  #50  
ventoGT
Three Wheelin'
 
ventoGT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: South Shore, MA
Posts: 1,416
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Newer cars it is not defeatable from a "remembering" setting...it's a cheap **** way for automakers to claim and extra 1mpg in EPA testing. Just wait until they take the button away too--one of many reasons I don't like many cars newer than the mid 2000s--more electronic mumbo jumbo, less connection with the driver, more stuff to break.
Old 06-15-2017, 01:56 PM
  #51  
t-design
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
t-design's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 673
Received 250 Likes on 164 Posts
Default

I don't think they'll take button away unless new regulations passed.

I'm pretty sure Porsche is happy to satisfy both greens and porshce owners with this sport mode button.

More, I would guess, they are very happy for aftermarket companies like T-Design9 to "fix" that sport and a/s/s button. They are not idiots and know that people don't buy Porsche to save fuel. So when people know that they can "fix" regulatory things - it sells more cars.

I have customers who wouldn't upgrade to default a/s/s models (2017) until they knew there's a fix.
Old 06-18-2017, 02:24 PM
  #52  
ventoGT
Three Wheelin'
 
ventoGT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: South Shore, MA
Posts: 1,416
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Great to know you have a solution for the annoying issue @t-design!
Old 06-24-2017, 04:41 PM
  #53  
9114SCV
Rennlist Member
 
9114SCV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

I just ordered the T-Design part to see how it works as I'm annoyed with the auto start/stop that Porsche won't let me keep turned off. I will report back.
Old 06-24-2017, 05:04 PM
  #54  
wkearney99
Rennlist Member
 
wkearney99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Bethesda, MD USA
Posts: 1,971
Received 152 Likes on 109 Posts
Default

The only 'difficult' part is getting the center cover off the shifter ****. Everything else is pretty straightforward.
Old 01-14-2018, 11:36 PM
  #55  
GoneTurbo958
Rennlist Member
 
GoneTurbo958's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 43
Received 28 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

I love my new '17 958 Turbo but the biggest complaint I have is the change to A/S/S. Not being able to save this setting is a daily annoyance.

Does anyone know if installing T-Design or other after market work around voids your Porsche's factory warranty?
Old 01-15-2018, 07:14 AM
  #56  
wkearney99
Rennlist Member
 
wkearney99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Bethesda, MD USA
Posts: 1,971
Received 152 Likes on 109 Posts
Default

Mine was the '17 958 they used to figure it out. The install is transparent to any systems in the car. Nothing will be affected by it. It works by listening to the bus signals for the console. It tracks what buttons are active and stores those settings. When you restart the vehicle the module pauses and then sends button press commands. The vehicle thinks the actual buttons were pressed and acts accordingly. It does not sit in-between the bus messages, so there's nothing for PIWIS or any diagnostic gear to 'see' on the bus.

Install is likewise pretty painless. Pop out a few panels, remove two screws under the ashtray, plug in the module and tuck it out of the way (it's small and there's plenty of room for it in there).
Old 01-15-2018, 10:57 AM
  #57  
TXCOMT
Instructor
 
TXCOMT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 119
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

So we just bought a '14 S and there's no A/S/S on it; out of curiosity, when did P begin adding this "feature" to our beloved SUVs?

TXCOMT
Old 01-15-2018, 12:32 PM
  #58  
wkearney99
Rennlist Member
 
wkearney99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Bethesda, MD USA
Posts: 1,971
Received 152 Likes on 109 Posts
Default

I think it was '17 that it became defaulted to always on without an option to remember it as off. Some previous model years would remember the last setting.

This new module overcomes the default-on setting. It remembers the last setting and selects that when you start again. If was off when you last shut off the ignition, it sets it back to off again.

I sort of wouldn't mind the feature if it wasn't so unpredictable. More often than not it's killed the engine just when I needed it. Like a short incline out of the neighborhood, where you really have to gun it to merge into morning traffic. Sit... wait... look for an opening... one's just about there.... >ENGINE CUTS OFF<... missed chance... repeat.... That and it inexplicably decides to almost immediately cut it off as I'm inching forward at a bank drive-up ATM. I'm like, WTF? It'll pause foreeeeeeeeeever at the stop sign... but BAM, cuts off right away in the parking lot?
Old 01-15-2018, 03:09 PM
  #59  
9114SCV
Rennlist Member
 
9114SCV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

The module works perfectly on my '17. I love that it also remembers the 'sport" button being turned on.

Regarding the warranty - don't ask; don't tell
Old 01-15-2018, 03:13 PM
  #60  
Rbradleysd
Intermediate
 
Rbradleysd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 9114SCV
The module works perfectly on my '17. I love that it also remembers the 'sport" button being turned on.

Regarding the warranty - don't ask; don't tell
How hard was the install?


Quick Reply: 2016 Cayenne auto start/stop: ARRRRRRRGH!!!!



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 05:05 PM.