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Old 09-06-2018, 08:09 PM
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My nephew is in his mid 30's and going to buy a used Cayenne. I sort of pushed him this direction and would like some advice. The other vehicle he considered was an Audi Q5 and after driving both Cayenne base and Q5 he's set on the Cayenne. I'm a 991 owner and have driven the diesel a couple times and came away thoroughly impressed. My nephews needs are a little more basic with dependability and cost of ownership being the top priorities.

In general, is one of these models more dependable than the other? He's specifically looking at used 2015/2016 base right now but a few diesels are in the area with really nice builds.

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Avoid the diesel. See the stickied diesel thread above. There are some issues post "fix".
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Diesel. 2016.


I have a 2016 that has been "fixed" and my wife has a 2015 Touareg TDI that has also been "fixed". My 2016 has no issues whatsoever and it runs like the day I got it and dare I say, even better. MPG's same as before, same power, same transmission, everything.

I just drove my wife's truck this past Wednesday and was amazed at how well it runs as I think her throttle/transmission response is even better than mine and she mostly putts around and only has a 3-4 mile commute each way M-F.

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I think the diesel is highly underrated. It’s absolutley fantastic. Yes, there are a few quirks because of the “fix” but the mpg, and power make it a fantastic SUV. I’m a huge advocate for cayenne diesel. Plus with a simple tune, 500 feet of torque is on tap. It’s a beautiful thing.
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Diesel.The torque is great and the gas mileage does make a real difference. I bought a low mileage 2015 CPO, so I don't know what the pre-fix vehicle was like. The vehicle is surprisingly quiet, and it is quick. There is a possibility that resale will be higher, since there so much less diesels out there. Let us know what he ends up doing.

Cwheeler, please let me know about the simple tune.
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Have him drive the Diesel, I had a 2014 for over three years and 28,000 miles. Trust me he WILL choose the Diesel. It will sell itself. It will also have a nice long warranty.
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Originally Posted by mafpolo
Diesel.The torque is great and the gas mileage does make a real difference. I bought a low mileage 2015 CPO, so I don't know what the pre-fix vehicle was like. The vehicle is surprisingly quiet, and it is quick. There is a possibility that resale will be higher, since there so much less diesels out there. Let us know what he ends up doing.

Cwheeler, please let me know about the simple tune.
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Originally Posted by cwheeler
I think the diesel is highly underrated. It’s absolutley fantastic. Yes, there are a few quirks because of the “fix” but the mpg, and power make it a fantastic SUV. I’m a huge advocate for cayenne diesel. Plus with a simple tune, 500 feet of torque is on tap. It’s a beautiful thing.
I drove a diesel loaner a couple times and was really surprised how sporty it was. Tons of torque and the Tiptronic was a great match. Not sure it's the right trim for him but that's his call. Just want the most reliable vehicle in the lineup.
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Plus Up for the diesel. Note that we have not gotten ours 'fixed'
Understand y'alls intent does not appear to include driving off-road but with what that entails we have been pleased with both its capabilities and reliability. We have driven ours through the hot summer Chihuahuan Desert to north of the Arctic Circle in -36F temps. Six years / 80,000 miles of off-road fun!
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Plus Up for the diesel. Note that we have not gotten ours 'fixed'
Understand y'alls intent does not appear to include driving off-road but with what that entails we have been pleased with both its capabilities and reliability. We have driven ours through the hot summer Chihuahuan Desert to north of the Arctic Circle in -36F temps. Six years / 80,000 miles of off-road fun!
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Nice! Even though it's most likely just going to be a pavement princess there is no substitute....
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Originally Posted by Dgags
Nice! Even though it's most likely just going to be a pavement princess there is no substitute....

No, no, forever and incorrectly, NO. There IS a substitute and it is Turbo or Turbo S or the newer, faster, more advanced model. So yes, there IS a substitute.
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If he is going to pile up miles then diesel no question. If it is going to be a short trip mall crawling pavement princess then stay away from diesel.
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I also think that as far as reliablity, the gas motor would get the nod, although, in the 130,000 miles since 2013 that my wife and I have both racked up in TDI Touaregs and now the CD, we have had no out of pocket repair/labor/replacement bills, so far.
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I'll go ahead and give my two cents. The base and diesel are both great options that have a very different personality. If you want reliability, definitely stick to the base model. The VR6 is a great, tried and true engine. The diesel is more complicated. If you are planning on racking up the miles and have a long distance commute, go for the diesel. It pairs perfectly to a cayenne with air suspension and 19" wheels. If you want your cayenne more sporty with steel suspension and 21" wheels, the VR6 is a lot of fun when you get it up in the rev range. It'll also get 24-26mpg highway which isn't bad.

My wife is very much enjoying the sporty VR6 motor. I, on the other hand, have a 60 mile commute round trip and drive a mercedes E250 bluetec (diesel).
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
Avoid the diesel. See the stickied diesel thread above. There are some issues post "fix".
Don't avoid it... read the thread above, then test drive the vehicle in question and see if it displays any of those symptoms. If not, you're probably good.


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