visitador

No problem. If you read this forum, it seems to me that owners of newish vehicles (that is, those that Porsche were not able to sell due to the stop sale) are the most satisfied. There may be a correlation, as someone pointed out in the sticky, of putting software designed for a pristine new engine on cars that has been driven for awhile.

For me personally, the pre-fix CD was a wonderful diesel. The post-fix is almost the same but for the holding on third gear when cold. If you still want to pursue a pre-owned CD, bear in mind that Porsche extended the new warranty to six years and once a fix is done, there is basically a 10 years powertrain warranty for issues related to the fix. A dealer selling a used one may even CPO the CD and you'll end up with eight years bumper to bumper (the last two being CPO, which main difference from new is CPO does not cover cosmetic issues such as rattles). Hope this helps in your decision.

docwyte

I drove plenty of pre fixed CD's as my dealer used them as service loaners. I thought the throttle response was weak on them then and always put them into "sport" mode. Same thing with my post fix '15 CD, whenever I drive it (wife's car) I hit the "sport" button.

BWR41

Thanks. The 2013 CD I'm pursuing is CPO and I was informed of the 2 years from the date of sale with unlimited miles. I read the Porsche brochure on the emission repair. I'll have to figure out which is greater based on in service date or modification date. Thanks again for the advice.

The warranty period for the “Extended Emissions Warranty” shall be the greater of:
• 10 years or 120,000 miles, whichever occurs first, from the vehicle’s original in-service date; OR
• 4 years or 48,000 miles, whichever occurs first, from the date and mileage at which the emissions modification was performed.

Needsdecaf

PORSCHEJAYHAWK

Seems like a good place to ask this question. I just received the offer letter for my 13 CD (originally sold in Canada, so there's been a delay compared to US CD's). My "Goodwill Extended Warranty" expires on 10/31 of this year. Would I be wise to delay having the fix done so as to maximize the time under warranty? It doesn't seem like have the Goodwill Warranty and the Emissions Warranty overlap would do any good.

BWR41

Not sure if I need to move this post as it is becoming more about Pre-Owned Warranty. For those who are more experienced, pls let me know if I need to move it.

A quick update. So I discovered after talking to Porsche North America that if a Porsche can not be Pre-Owned Warranty (CPO) more than once. In my case, I am pursuing a 2013 CD with only one owner. In-service date was 1/4/2013; therefore the new car warranty ends 1/4/2017 (4 years later). That said, it seems that a Pre-Owned Warranty took effect 1/4/2017 and is scheduled to expire 1/4/2019 (2 years).

The Porsche dealership I am purchasing the 2013 CD from is telling me that when I purchase this Porsche the Pre-Owned Warranty will cover 2 years. In this case, 6/2018 to 6/2020.

I obviously would like for the Pre-Owned Warranty to cover from the time of purchase. I also don't have a reason to not believe Porsche N.A. regarding a vehicle can only be warranty for Pre-Owned certification once.

So has anyone experienced this situation with an authorized Porsche dealership?

Thank you in advance.

BWR41

PORSCHEJAYHAWK-
As I'm not sure of your milage, so I'll address the time frame. Since your CD is a 2013, I suspect your inservice date is sometime in 2012 or 2013. That said, if you do nothing and go solely on the 10 years, it will be 2022 or 2023.

If you waited to start the 4 year clock, then you would need to hold off on the modification until 2020. Your extended warranty for emission will expire 2024. Waiting could gain you 1 additional year or more; making warranty after modification being your best coverage.

The only thing I don't know is whether there's a time frame that you have to get the modification completed.

Good Luck.

The warranty period for the “Extended Emissions Warranty” shall be the greater of:
• 10 years or 120,000 miles, whichever occurs first, from the vehicle’s original in-service date; OR
• 4 years or 48,000 miles, whichever occurs first, from the date and mileage at which the emissions modification was performed.

PORSCHEJAYHAWK

In service date 10/31/2012. Goodwill warranty expires 10/31 of this year. 55,000 miles. Is the Extended Emissions Warranty transferrable?

BWR41

Yes.

TransferabilityThis extended emissions warranty is fully transferable to subsequent owners.

https://www.vwcanadasettlement.ca/en/_3models

Scroll down and select: Emission Complaint Repair - 2013 -2014 Porsche Cayenne 3.0L Diesel Booklet

Hope this helps.

visitador

^^^ the fix program ends sometime at the end of next year. You don't need to do the fix until then but then you won't have any kind of warranty after 10/30 of this year. The fix warranty only kicks in after you do the fix

Dr. No

Thanks for this info Visitador - since you're in CA, do you know if there is any issue registering an out of state CD in CA? There seem to be a few of them at attractive prices.

visitador

I believe all Porsche cars are 50 state compliant. The fix has the blessing of CARB. Besides it is not a tailpipe test. The test is a OBD-2 test. So, it is just checking the CDs computer.

I assume you know the process of registering an out of state car, right? You have to smog test it first before bringing it to the DMV for inspection.

A note of caution: Don't do any maintenance that requires resetting the computers. You won't be able to pass the test unless you drive the CD a few hundred miles.

Dr. No

Thanks V - I have brought cars in from out of state before, but it's been a few years now, and with the hysteria surrounding the diesel emissions scandal, well, you never know what special tests CA may decide should be inflicted.

visitador

Make sure the CD you are planning to buy has the two fix stickers under the hood

coffeeisgood

I am aware of one sticker
can you please describe the locations of both stickers under the hood? (maybe I missed the other one)