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Old 12-22-2017, 03:02 PM
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Long time lurker here, but first possible porsche purchase. The ppi kind of scares me. I want a 2011+ turbo loaded with most goodies and this one checks most of the boxes. I'm handy, but not a porsche mechanic. Can you decipher the report and codes for me? Leaking tcase due to overheating fluid and it getting slung out or do the seals leak at all?

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this is 958 body, there is a subforum here - check on transfer case issues there in a sticky
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Originally Posted by Kirill
this is 958 body, there is a subforum here - check on transfer case issues there in a sticky
Thanks. I'm aware of the thread about tcases. I haven't driven it yet since im not close to it, but I know what to look for as far as tcase symptoms are concerned. Just wondering offhand if a leak likely indicates a bad tcase or if these are known to have seal leaks at times.

Im more curious about the other codes since I dont know what exact issues they indicate.

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Code 602 is one that typically indicates the battery is at fault.

A faulty charging system could also flag this code but considering the year and mileage its more likely a faulty battery.

In fact all of the remaining codes could be caused by low battery voltage.

The Cayenne is known to store numerous unrelated error codes if the idle voltage drops below 13.5V.
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Originally Posted by v10rick
Code 602 is one that typically indicates the battery is at fault.

A faulty charging system could also flag this code but a 2011 with 54K mi. not as likely as a faulty battery.

In fact all of the remaining codes could be caused by low battery voltage.

The Cayenne with all its modules can store numerous unrelated error codes if the idle voltage drops below 13.5V.
thanks. I'm going to stop into my local dealership on my way home and see what their service department thinks about the inspection report. I appreciate any additional info members can provide.
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Originally Posted by wisconsin123
thanks. I'm going to stop into my local dealership on my way home and see what their service department thinks about the inspection report. I appreciate any additional info members can provide.
Great!
Let us know what they think and post it here for all to benefit.
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you can also ask dealer to tell you manufacturing date of the battery.
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Moving this to the 958 subforum.

That many codes to me means the PPI should be done at a dealership where they can give an estimate to repair. You'll pay more for it - but if it prevents you from buying a dog it's paid for itself many times over.
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BTW - the transfer cases aren't known to leak. That isn't a common fault. And being a 2011 CTT it certainly is subject to the recall for the Variocam adjusters - or they may have been done preventively (don't count on it though - check - through the oil filler hole - it only takes a minute and a $3 dental mirror) - if they haven't been done, there is the possibility of failure before Porsche finally gets off their butt and has parts to do the recall. The failure can be simply the engine stops, up to the engine self-destructs. Not a real problem since Porsche is on the hook for it anyway, but it could be an inconvenience. The stickies are your friend - read them and then come back to ask unanswered questions.
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Is there another page to this report? If not, it seems pretty half-***. I'd want all plugs pulled and examined along with a compression test on any vehicle. When it comes to a Cayenne, I'd also insist on a borescope inspection of every cylinder and a leak down test.

And why did they ding him with a $4 hazmat charge?
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Originally Posted by 19psi
And why did they ding him with a $4 hazmat charge?
George - disposal of left over bull**** cost $4.. I agree - it appears to be a quick glance and a code readout to me. Certainly not what I'd expect to spend that much money on.
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Originally Posted by 19psi
Is there another page to this report? If not, it seems pretty half-***. I'd want all plugs pulled and examined along with a compression test on any vehicle. When it comes to a Cayenne, I'd also insist on a borescope inspection of every cylinder and a leak down test.

And why did they ding him with a $4 hazmat charge?
No way you are getting a leak down or compression test for $160. A PPI from a great indy near me is $300 and basically follows the CPO list along with their own knowledge of the cars. It would cost extra for a compression test if they thought it was warranted. Dealers, if they will even do them anymore, are closer to $500.

Labor rates are probably close to $150/hr, so this was probably more like a once-over with an ODB scan. I'm guessing the potential buyer opted for this instead of a full PPI.
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The dealershop that did the ppi is chicagowhiz or something like that. It wasnt me that ordered it. I saw their name on the carfax and called. I asked my local dealership on the way home tonight after work and they wouldn't help. Zimbrick European (porsche and others) in madison, wisconsin.
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Originally Posted by 19psi
Is there another page to this report? If not, it seems pretty half-***. I'd want all plugs pulled and examined along with a compression test on any vehicle. When it comes to a Cayenne, I'd also insist on a borescope inspection of every cylinder and a leak down test.

And why did they ding him with a $4 hazmat charge?
that's the only page I was sent
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A leaking transfer case could be from a cracked case caused by over tightening the drain/fill plugs.


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