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Old 09-07-2017, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by HRE_Jurrian
Anyone with a Hybrid that is towing roughly 6,000-7,000lbs? Just curious your experience as I'm thinking about jumping into a Cayenne S Hybrid, but I still need it to tow a 3000lbs enclosed trailer with a 3300lbs car inside. Any experiences or issues?
My trailer has four wheels, is 4 meters long, and takes a couple of snow mobiles no problem. I used it over the summer to haul hard wood around for fence posts. I had 50, 4 meter 10cm x 10cm posts on it. Plus concrete and a bunch of other stuff. Solid as a rock.

I actually don't know the weight of the trailer. I could check. But it was previously used for moving a mid sized digger / earth mover around. The tail gate on it is strong enough to drive that or a car up. All metal. So I'd say it is roughly the same as towing a car in an enclosed trailer. I'd certainly have zero worries doing that either.
Old 09-08-2017, 10:02 AM
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The TT brakes would fire your teeth out, the S was also damn good. The Diesel was brilliant, I am told the strange weight distribution and the regenerating system reduce the seat of the pants effectiveness of the brakes on the hybrid

I use the seat of my pants for a lot of things, its will stop in an emergency for sure but normal driving sucks

I do not want to do emergency stop all the time

A trailer with decent electric brakes might actually help, use the trailer brakes to slow the car



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I'd get yours looked at if I was you.
Old 09-08-2017, 11:49 AM
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I've had TTs. Sure they do stop better, but I'd still get yours looked at if I was you. =)

There is no doubt the hybrids do wallow more, and have more weight. But I have zero concerns about their stopping ability.

EDIT : I guess it also comes down to driving style.. I always tend to engine brake (something I do miss on the hybrid because it's not really a thing on those). But in an emergency, or coming to a halt quickly I have zero concerns in the hybrid. Slower braking, when approaching a junction for example, can feel odd as the systems all tend to fight one another and you have to adjust on the fly. But that is a whole world of different from the braking not being effective IMO.
Old 09-08-2017, 01:17 PM
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Its so easy to forget and you end up rolling up the $#% of the guy in front if your not careful

Will not let passenger seat drive this, no way would it end well.

And stealer has had it to look at


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I've had TTs. Sure they do stop better, but I'd still get yours looked at if I was you. =)

There is no doubt the hybrids do wallow more, and have more weight. But I have zero concerns about their stopping ability.

EDIT : I guess it also comes down to driving style.. I always tend to engine brake (something I do miss on the hybrid because it's not really a thing on those). But in an emergency, or coming to a halt quickly I have zero concerns in the hybrid. Slower braking, when approaching a junction for example, can feel odd as the systems all tend to fight one another and you have to adjust on the fly. But that is a whole world of different from the braking not being effective IMO.
Old 10-31-2017, 04:38 PM
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As a hybrid owner, it is my understanding that the battery prevents a towing hitch. I’d love to add one to my car if possible?!!


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Hello guys, I'm looking into getting a Cayenne S Hybrid around 2012-2014 model and wanted to know if you can retrofit the OEM tow hitch onto these cars. From what I read it was not an option from the dealer? If anyone has used an aftermarket trailer hitch what are the risks involved and do you still need to have a module program by the dealer to enable everything to work properly?

Right now I'm thinking I may have to just get a non hybrid "S" model so I can tow a small trailer when needed.

Thanks for any info you guys can give

Ken
Old 10-31-2017, 09:09 PM
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All I can speak to is my experience over the past 6 years towing with a 2011 Hybrid S and it has been fantastic. Most of the towing has been a 2000 lb race car in a 20'enclosed Thule aluminum trailer. I also tow my GS car which is 3000 lbs. With that I"m probably around 6500-7000 lbs combined with tools, tires, fuel etc. 84,000 now on the car, no real problems to speak of. I've been diligent on service and things have gone well.
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Very exciting news! We were told we couldn’t get a tow package. Did you order your Cayenne with it or aftermarket?
Old 10-31-2017, 10:55 PM
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Tow package when I ordered the car from Porsche.
Old 10-31-2017, 10:59 PM
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Thanks! I guess I lucked out. He can do the towing in his truck!!
Good Vibes!
Old 11-30-2017, 04:11 PM
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This looks amazing. Sadly I appear to have some "extra" piece of sheet metal at the bottom of my bumper valance panel and (without taking it apart which I will do tonight), I can't tell if that means "I'm screwed".

Did your configuration look like this as well?




what is that piece of sheet metal covering? (will dig into this tonight ...)
Old 12-02-2017, 04:52 PM
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Here is what mine looked like prior to changing it out.
Old 12-02-2017, 04:56 PM
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Here is a picture of a red GTS with lower tow bumper cutout with out the hitch receiver.

And some pics of mine when i was doing the swap.


Old 12-19-2017, 10:03 PM
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I finally managed to get this done by using the parts list supplied by Edman951.

Attached are some photos of the installation process. I had attempted to do it myself but couldn't convince myself to pry as hard as needed to remove the plastic bits holding the bumper on near the taillights so I decided to pay someone (300$) to do the installation instead. This included putting the new lower valence part on which turned out to be quite a pain in the bum given that it appears as though many of the tabs holding this piece on appear to be a one time "install only" type-thing, if that makes any sense. The results look great, thanks again for everyone who posted here with their results. Attaching a few photos of how this all panned out for my car.





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Just following up on this thread... any issues with towing during this time? I have '17 SEH looking to tow a GT3 ~200-300 miles to tracks... appreciate any info
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Originally Posted by arrowheaddoctor
Just following up on this thread... any issues with towing during this time? I have '17 SEH looking to tow a GT3 ~200-300 miles to tracks... appreciate any info
Bump for the same question


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