Sniffer

My understanding was that the 6 cylinder units with the DEF/Urea system weren't cheating and therefore won't be affected

Izzone

Based on conversations with a good friend high up at Audi, 3.0L diesel will pass fine

The 3.0 diesel is an Audi design that vw used...the 2.0L is a vw engine that Audi used

mdrobc1213

I have a 2016 on order due in this Dec and asked my dealer as it seems now this has grown to Audi also and about 11 million vehicles if European ones are included. BMW noted the X3 was found to be above the levels too but the X5 was okay. My dealer's response was that the Cayenne Diesel was not effected and had a different ECU and engine. Hope that holds..and my delivery isn't delayed or the Cayenne affected.

mdrobc1213

Mine already locked on 2 Sept so hoping too it isn't affected or delayed.

Izzone

Got chicken....bailed on my Pepper diesel

Bought a RR diesel (OK bought two I finally sold the Macan that annoyed me)....what an upgrade, motor / trans is much smoother than the VW model

Vista6019

I just backed out of a planned purchase of a 15' CPO Cayenne Diesel. I believe that the overzealous EPA will now hyper-scrutinize ALL VW diesels (including the recently announced investigation into 3.0 liter units) and the unfortunate consequences will be damaged reputation and resale values for anything associated with Diesel and the VW group of brands. I have read the letters to the dealers from VW, about Porsche not being affected but my experience with dealing with the Feds is that they are relentless and are now going to impose new "over the road" emissions tests.....and my guess is that no one comes out of this unscathed.
-My wife and I are huge Porsche Brand supporters and felt that this would be the perfect vehicle for us (and still is) and are greatly disappointed. Not sure where to go for our next SUV (needed to tow my 991 to track days!)

Spyerx

X5d is k but it doesn't drive anywhere near as nice as a cayenne.

gnat

I don't think we'll have any more to worry about than every other car that "legitimately" does worse in the real world. The big reason for the hack was so they could skip the AdBlue, and we have that already.

There is likely to be a short term hit in resale value, but it will go back up in a few years after this mostly blows over. I fear it's the end of any chance diesels had to go mainstream in the U.S., but the real diesel lovers will still be there and as new options start to dwindle the used market will creep up again.

If you can wait I'd say hold off for another month or too and you are likely to get a better deal from the nervous nellies and if your plan is to hold onto it for 4+ years (and diesel is the wrong short term option anyway) then you should be good.

Izzone

Range Rover is making diesels for 2016

The power delivery / transmission is much more refined than the vw model used in a cayenne....they also isolated the engine better from the chassis and the at idle vibration is not there....worst part of a cayenne diesel

Give them a try...I liked them so much I bought two

pdxjim

Regarding idle vibration, I am on my second diesel cayenne and do not notice any vibration. When knowledgeable car friends see my car when I am in it, they don't know it is an oil burner until they see the label.

Doug_B_928

I took a 16 for a test drive and found the idle vibration to be very noticeable.

endless_corners

Nobody even thinks about the BP disaster in the gulf anymore. I'm not sure this will have long term impact on our cultural memory for diesel. It could blow over. At the end of the day diesels make an excellent motivator for heavy vehicles.

Vista6019

I do not believe that the BMW has anywhere near the towing capacity that the Cayenne does either.....

Vista6019

We recently test drove two of these vehicles and noticed no idle vibrations. In fact my wife did not even know it was an oil burner until we told her.....

Izzone

I had two, 2013 and 2015

Both great cars...both had idle vibration