Cayenne life expectancy
09-26-2018, 07:23 PM
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Cayenne life expectancy
I searched several used car websites for used Cayenne's. I found about 5000 throughout the US and only one that had more that 200k miles (a 2004 model). Compare that to Lexus (for the same years) and you'll find cars close to 400k. That made me wonder, are the engines (or transmissions) known to only make it x number of miles, or are people just driving these cars less? Do you hear about rebuilds being needed at x number of miles? Any trends that you're aware of that involve major repairs?
By the way, I just purchased a 2011 Base model. It literally looks brand new, not a single scratch on it. It also came with many dealer maintenance receipts, so I know it was taken care of, however I'm just wondering if I can expect this car to last 5, 10, 15 years (if correctly maintained of course).
By the way, I just purchased a 2011 Base model. It literally looks brand new, not a single scratch on it. It also came with many dealer maintenance receipts, so I know it was taken care of, however I'm just wondering if I can expect this car to last 5, 10, 15 years (if correctly maintained of course).
09-26-2018, 07:54 PM
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I’ll tell you in a few years 😂😂😂 I think many people are scared of Porsche. Lexus/Toyota has been known for years to last forever. I am currently selling my 07 FJ that has 315k on it and still looks and runs new. Porsche just doesn’t have the history in the SUV market to make most people feel comfortable with real mileage yet. In my opinion.
09-26-2018, 08:15 PM
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Where to start..... ;-)
The original Cayenne actually built a large following because of its reliability and build quality. Other than a few issues (small but significant), they are extremely reliable! The later 958 model seems to have changed things a little, but it also ramped up the technology. And given that the sticker price for top of the range 2011 and later Turbos can be well north of $120k, dont expect them to have anything other than a pampered life! But thats the point, since many owners spent well over $100k on the cars, they tend not to do star ship mileage in them. While Landcruisers aren't cheap, they are extremely functional and people dont mind racking up the mileage over a longer period of time. Does it mean they are more reliable? Maybe, but its a different buyer and market so your average super-SUV driver isnt so likely to drive 50,000 miles a year.
Issues? Spending time talking to specialists suggest that the modern Porsche suffers in a similar way as to many modern cars - technology issues. Yes, there are some drivetrain issues (see the top level for the threads for more info on this - its covered in detail), but they wear well, dont suffer simple issues and are in general very reliable. But when technology components fail, its usually expensive and complex to fix. Just dont expect it to be cheap.
The original Cayenne actually built a large following because of its reliability and build quality. Other than a few issues (small but significant), they are extremely reliable! The later 958 model seems to have changed things a little, but it also ramped up the technology. And given that the sticker price for top of the range 2011 and later Turbos can be well north of $120k, dont expect them to have anything other than a pampered life! But thats the point, since many owners spent well over $100k on the cars, they tend not to do star ship mileage in them. While Landcruisers aren't cheap, they are extremely functional and people dont mind racking up the mileage over a longer period of time. Does it mean they are more reliable? Maybe, but its a different buyer and market so your average super-SUV driver isnt so likely to drive 50,000 miles a year.
Issues? Spending time talking to specialists suggest that the modern Porsche suffers in a similar way as to many modern cars - technology issues. Yes, there are some drivetrain issues (see the top level for the threads for more info on this - its covered in detail), but they wear well, dont suffer simple issues and are in general very reliable. But when technology components fail, its usually expensive and complex to fix. Just dont expect it to be cheap.
09-26-2018, 11:10 PM
#4
Porsche doesn’t build a reliable car,but they build an attractive, above average performing one. Anything can be kept running for lots of miles, it all depends on the money you want to throw at it,and how much you enjoy it. Coolant tubes degrading, driveshaft replacements, it ain’t no Toyota.
09-27-2018, 01:24 PM
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If you want a SUV that will go forever without high maintenance cost, get the Toyota 4Runner. If you want a Porsche SUV that may become a collector's item, follow what member offload said with regard to the first generation Cayenne.
As for my 958 CD, I feel that it is actually better build than my 991.1 S. There has been no rattles or interior wear and tear shown through my five years of ownership. Of course I am talking about diesel. The base gas engine is one shared with other VW group cars, such as the Toaureg. Haven't read anything bad about them.
See this video about the original ones:
As for my 958 CD, I feel that it is actually better build than my 991.1 S. There has been no rattles or interior wear and tear shown through my five years of ownership. Of course I am talking about diesel. The base gas engine is one shared with other VW group cars, such as the Toaureg. Haven't read anything bad about them.
See this video about the original ones:
09-27-2018, 03:04 PM
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If you want a SUV that will go forever without high maintenance cost, get the Toyota 4Runner. If you want a Porsche SUV that may become a collector's item, follow what member offload said with regard to the first generation Cayenne.
As for my 958 CD, I feel that it is actually better build than my 991.1 S. There has been no rattles or interior wear and tear shown through my five years of ownership. Of course I am talking about diesel. The base gas engine is one shared with other VW group cars, such as the Toaureg. Haven't read anything bad about them.
As for my 958 CD, I feel that it is actually better build than my 991.1 S. There has been no rattles or interior wear and tear shown through my five years of ownership. Of course I am talking about diesel. The base gas engine is one shared with other VW group cars, such as the Toaureg. Haven't read anything bad about them.
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09-28-2018, 09:10 PM
#8
CDK summed it up. I have owned an Acura SUV and Mercedes Benz SUV, and now my 2016 Cayenne S. I have also owned various generations of 911s, so I knew in advance about the maintenance costs of Porsches. I felt the Acura which went well over 100k miles had the longest and most reliable life expectancy. My wife now drives the Benz, and while it only has 40k miles, it has been extremely reliable and seems rock solid and built for the long haul.
The Cayenne gives me a whole different vibe. Fun to drive, yes. Great acceleration, great handling, great brakes, and even great seats. But it scares me. I have already had the software update for the cruse control problem seen in the 958s. I have also had to have the AC recharged due to poor cooling and recently the left exhaust tips were replaced under warranty because the inside coating was flaking off. I am currently waiting on my dealer to let me know about the little bumps I get at low speeds which seem to be the torque converter. I find myself driving the Cayenne instead of the 911 just because it is lots of fun and is better suited for carrying people and cargo, but I suspect the higher maintenance costs coupled with compromised reliability will wear me down sooner rather than later.
The Cayenne gives me a whole different vibe. Fun to drive, yes. Great acceleration, great handling, great brakes, and even great seats. But it scares me. I have already had the software update for the cruse control problem seen in the 958s. I have also had to have the AC recharged due to poor cooling and recently the left exhaust tips were replaced under warranty because the inside coating was flaking off. I am currently waiting on my dealer to let me know about the little bumps I get at low speeds which seem to be the torque converter. I find myself driving the Cayenne instead of the 911 just because it is lots of fun and is better suited for carrying people and cargo, but I suspect the higher maintenance costs coupled with compromised reliability will wear me down sooner rather than later.
10-01-2018, 12:14 AM
#9
My 2011 CS has over 110K miles on it....the only issue I had was to replace the high pressure fuel pump just over a month ago....other than some exterior light scratches/sand blasting, the paint and interior are in fantastic condition...
10-01-2018, 06:16 PM
#10
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Another 957 data point-- my 2006 Titanium edition CS has 235K on the odometer, and runs like a Swiss watch. I am the original owner. My "only" major repairs are the coolant pipes (thanks PCNA) and the replacement of one air shock. I have no plans to get rid of it (it's the DD "beater" Porsche), but am looking to add a newer, second Cayenne (hence, my visits to this subforum). Six months ago, I replaced the original battery (my mechanic asked "what kind do you want?" Response: "EXACTLY like the last one"). YMMV (literally!!)
10-04-2018, 05:35 PM
#11
Reliability is a hard thing to judge. I just let my '03 BMW 330i go 2 weeks ago. I considered it a pretty reliable car... at 206k miles. It was on its 4th water pump, 3rd t-stat, 3rd exp. tank, and 2nd radiator. 4th set of control arm bushings and 2nd set of interior bits... I now run a '13 CGTS. We're at 72k miles and I'm hoping to hit 150k before I let it go. Not sure what will need to be replaced, but I'm already planning my TC rebuild or replace. I put 20-25k miles/yr on my daily drivers so if its going to break I should be finding out in about 2 years 
10-05-2018, 12:50 PM
#12
Another 957 data point-- my 2006 Titanium edition CS has 235K on the odometer, and runs like a Swiss watch. I am the original owner. My "only" major repairs are the coolant pipes (thanks PCNA) and the replacement of one air shock. I have no plans to get rid of it (it's the DD "beater" Porsche), but am looking to add a newer, second Cayenne (hence, my visits to this subforum). Six months ago, I replaced the original battery (my mechanic asked "what kind do you want?" Response: "EXACTLY like the last one"). YMMV (literally!!)
10-08-2018, 07:50 PM
#13
Man there is some bad information in this thread.
Porache has been pretty consistently rated, by multiple sources, as one of if not the most reliable car company on earth. For decades!!
The problem is that most people shop for cars/trucks that are in categories that Porsche doesn’t compete in. Things like “mid sized sedans under $30k” In those categories brands like Honda and Toyota rise to the top.
Porache has been pretty consistently rated, by multiple sources, as one of if not the most reliable car company on earth. For decades!!
The problem is that most people shop for cars/trucks that are in categories that Porsche doesn’t compete in. Things like “mid sized sedans under $30k” In those categories brands like Honda and Toyota rise to the top.
10-09-2018, 01:20 PM
#14
Just to add to this, my local specialist is also a BMW one too. Was taking one day about maybe swapping the Cayenne for a BMW that’s cheaper to run and they absolutely said no.
BMW has a reputation for build quality and reliability but in reality it’s the cheap plastic parts that fail and tend to lead to constant coolant fixes, vacuum tube problems and lots and lots of issues with the iDrive systems. In comparison with Porsche, which can suffer similar issues, they are way worse. He then went on to give lots and lots of evidence on where Porsche goes above and beyond what BMW does to prevent issues. Yes, there are still problems, but overall he could cite lots of examples of using higher quality parts and plastics to keep the cars running longer and easier. Far from perfect, but better than others.
Thwre has to be a lot said for simplicity and engineering that hasn’t changed in 15 years. But then again your average Toyota doesn’t go around corners like a Cayenne and if that comes with a slightly higher maintenance cost, I am happy to pay for the smiles per miles.
BMW has a reputation for build quality and reliability but in reality it’s the cheap plastic parts that fail and tend to lead to constant coolant fixes, vacuum tube problems and lots and lots of issues with the iDrive systems. In comparison with Porsche, which can suffer similar issues, they are way worse. He then went on to give lots and lots of evidence on where Porsche goes above and beyond what BMW does to prevent issues. Yes, there are still problems, but overall he could cite lots of examples of using higher quality parts and plastics to keep the cars running longer and easier. Far from perfect, but better than others.
Thwre has to be a lot said for simplicity and engineering that hasn’t changed in 15 years. But then again your average Toyota doesn’t go around corners like a Cayenne and if that comes with a slightly higher maintenance cost, I am happy to pay for the smiles per miles.
