Very good to know, thanks! In a way I like not having the nannies to help, but then if it gets me a few secs less too...

So the 2009+ can fit the 19" wheels? I know a 955 can, but that's what I may be replacing. I currently have a 18" AT set & 20" for street.

Thanks for the offer! I know there's a good aftermarket to trade them but I hadn't considered the angle. So swapping the PCCBs isn't a very big deal? Can they be added to any truck later? (I don't want too, just curious)

WP, I appreciate the sage advice. This is exactly what I've done with my 955 today and I'm pretty happy with it, but I wish I had more confidence, if not capability, in it to go deeper off-road. Sounds like a Turbo is the way to go for autox with no worries. Hmm, so I could keep my 18" wheels for a 2008... And I hear what you & the others are saying about the costs involved with the TTS. I have some soul & wallet searching to do on that point.

While I don't doubt it, I doubt it. :) I suspect they're trying to create a marketing buzz for the niche trim. A GTS would be better than an S, but not enough of an upgrade to get me to bite. Otherwise I'd be cone killing in a Transsyberia today.

Shout it out brother! ;)


Much appreciated everyone! I know a local fab shop who would work with me to construct some under armor if I can't find the PB1-4 type option for a 957. As stated above, after DDing, my priority is more autocross than off-road, but because the options for off-roading are so rare, I'm more focused on finding those. Since this is going to be compromise of competing capabilities (giggly fast & rock crawling) I know I'll need to settle somewhere in-between. ATM I know I always have that gut feeling of why didn't he get the TTS if I don't. Still, I'd like to have the option to drive up a mountain or two... bth the off-roading ambitions are not real rock crawling, but more like mud/dirt fire roads, steep inclines etc.

So here's what I gather are the things I'm looking for...

Must haves:
PDCC
PASM
Beige interior
Not-a-project (I'm not a great wrencher atm)

Wants:
CTTS
18/19" wheel options
Offroad package
Sports Package
non-panno
non-PCCB (but per Pteza this ins't going to be a determining factor)
ACC w/active safe
PTV+
morrisdl's Android radio
Entry and Drive

Unicorn wishes (957):
1Y1 Rear differential lock in addition to central differential lock
3L4 Driver memory package
6EB Additional body covers, stone guards and partial cover
7T3 Offroad navigation, with course calculator showing latitude and longitude + compass display
8WU Roof-mounted lights
9TF Courtesy entry and exit lights
L0R Right-hand drive version
PT3 Off-road Technology package: el.variable rear diff.lock, rock rails, reinforced engine bay guard, additional protection for fuel tank and rear axle, second towing lug + side running boards

If/when I start to focus in on any specific vehicles I'll dig more into the issues around them.

Yes, 2009+ without PCCB can fit 19" wheels.

One thing to note, if your goal is a 957 gen, then PTV wasn't available on the 955/957 gen vehicles. That option was offered with the intro of the 958s. I mention this because I noticed it was on your list of "must haves".

Also to note....no bumester if 957....your stuck with the blowz. From what I can tell some of your wishes are quite achievable with a 957 Turbo S....some are never going to happen. For instance, in a year of looking at every single 2009 Turbo S I have only seen one sand beige interior. Mostly this is because the Turbo S was often fitted with the GTS sport seats (available as option on regular Turbo) and almost always they had Suede inserts. Just to make things more messy the 2009 CTTS also had two exclusive interior two-tones, black/havana beige and black/stone grey. It makes what Petza and I have very, very hard to find (full black leather).

The good news is that some of the other options your requesting are typically found on most CTTS's just because they were options everyone wanted (entry and drive).

Look at this which was just listed a few days ago. Price should probably be 35k just to give you a range.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-Caye...m=182287759489

Lava grey was exclusive to Turbo S, No Pano, sport seats (hard to tell if full leather or suede and build says full), exterior black package (would be HAPPY to swap trims and pay for the swap if you wanted silver),entry and drive, bluetooth, 4 zone AC (super important if you want to have different fan settings from your always cold wife!) and after market rear entertainment which is worlds better than the OEM option (google it).

Just thought I'd throw that out there and help your window shopping to understand what you will likely find in a 957 CTTS.

Oh, and its worth mentioning 575hp (I also have tubi exhaust which is sick sounding) in this beast is like nothing you've ever felt. It really does throw you in your seat sometimes when you catch the gears and boost just right.

Thanks guys for pointing those things out. I'll admit a couple of items here were scrapped from reading previous posts, and as you can see I'm still learning what options were available with each. I'm OK with the "Blowz" as its whats in my 055 and frankly I don't care too much about it. PTV sounds very interesting, but good to know. It will drop off the list then.

I've seen a few beige interiors, but yes they are very rare. I didn't know why until now, so thank you again for that.

The only commonality between a 957 Turbo and 958 Turbo is the engine. Everything else is different. They're completely different SUV's. Honestly, if you're flush enough to afford a 958 Turbo, even a lightly optioned one, there is no reason to look at a 957 Turbo.

Except that they look better :p

that and 957s are cheaper across the board. I'm not that flush.

If your priority is auto-x, spend a few grand and buy a miata. Seriously.

Yes, you can auto-x a Cayenne but why would you want to? It's an SUV, not a sports car. A cheap miata will be SO much better of an auto-xr its not even funny.

Then you can have your Cayenne do what it was built to do, which is be a great DD, off roader, snow machine.

Can't fit smaller than 19" on the CTTS, so that makes off road tires a bit of an issue. I do like the additional power and if you can find the right one they're not a whole lot more money than the regular CTT...

Yeah, I know I could go much faster in miata, or my boxtser too for that matter. But that's not the point of a challenge now is it? :burnout:

Miata? Might be a good auto-x car but this is a Porsche forum.. why not a Boxster S? Earlier models can be found under $6k.

To my knowledge, the miata doesn't suffer from IMS, RMS, AOS or cylinder wall chunking issues.

Now this is an interesting truck: https://cargur.us/c092n

Perhaps a few too many miles for my taste, and not enough unicorn wishes, but its by no means 'done' either. What has me scratching my head is the Engine Issue listed on the Vindercoderz site: http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/check-...AC29P18LA92896

Does this truck have a new motor installed? If that's the case this suddenly becomes a very intriguing vehicle for the price.

That looks like a nice 957 CTT at a decent price. Reminds me of the one I had, with the chestnut brown/black interior, great looking combo. Yeah the miles might be a little high, but actually not outrageous for an 08 (9 years old now).

I see what you mean about the entry regarding the engine. That is a known problem with some of the 957 CTTs. It's plagued a few 957 CTTs I've seen mentioned here and in other places, although in the grand scheme still doesn't seem very prevalent. What's not clear from the entry in the VIN decoder database is what was done about it once the problem occurred on this vehicle?

Love the interior color scheme. I'd be asking all kinds of questions about its service history. The miles wouldn't make me think twice, depending on what's been done vs. what's been deferred.
The price is about right.