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Old 06-26-2013, 02:54 PM
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Default V8 going away

My salesman tells me the Panny's V8 will be replaced by a turbo V6.
the GTS, TT, and TTS will retain the V8, for now.

Is this also the case w/ the Cayennes? Salesman didnt know.


So why P doing this? I cant believe its just for fuel savings.
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:21 PM
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The Panamera S and 4S have already been replaced with a Turbo V6 that makes more HP and torque than the base V8, although it's not going to have the V8 rumble. I don't think there's any question that fuel economy is driving the change and for that reason I wouldn't be surprised to see the Turbo V6 in the Cayenne at some point.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:05 PM
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interesting. Lemme guess the price will not be any lower. These NA V8 are going away and I dont like the trend. furthermore I think the VW sourced v6 is crap. Ok im finished whining.
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The VW VR6 is a great engine.
Granted, it doesn't split it coolant tubes in order to cool it's starter, but let's not hold that against it.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:20 PM
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hahaha!

now on the other hand if P puts the flat 6 in it....
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Cafe standards are driving this.
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ltc View Post
The VW VR6 is a great engine.
Granted, it doesn't split it coolant tubes in order to cool it's starter, but let's not hold that against it.

You're obviously smoking the "crack pipe" and know little about the VR6 then.


(See image for plastic VR6 "crack pipe" and metal replacement to prevent future breakage and soaking of components....like the starter)


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Guys, this isn't related to the VW based VR6 used in the base Cayenne. It's an all Porsche engine.
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf View Post
Guys, this isn't related to the VW based VR6 used in the base Cayenne. It's an all Porsche engine.
I know. Just pointing out that the previously used VR6 did technically suffer from "coolant pipe" issues

A well turbocharged V6 can be a monster. I had a 500hp twin turbo V6 in an Audi S4. Fun, but talk about a real maintenance pig! My Cayenne Turbo has been a dream to maintain after that POS!
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Originally Posted by kosmo View Post
interesting. Lemme guess the price will not be any lower. These NA V8 are going away and I dont like the trend. furthermore I think the VW sourced v6 is crap. Ok im finished whining.
I can't disagree. Even though the V6 is a Porsche engine, the demise of the V8 is kind of sad. A big reason (among others) why I bought a Cayenne instead of a Touareg in 2011 is because I wanted a V8.
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I had a Touareg V8 when VW still sold them. It was an Audi engine. 350hp FSI. Awesome engine. No issues at all other then intake motor flaps failing three times.

Not surprised the V8 is going away. Big waste of fuel. The V6 supercharged will be just as fun and powerful.

Love all the VW/Audi bashing here. It's hilarious how condescending some Porsche snot rags can be. Thanks for the chuckle.
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Originally Posted by fincher View Post

Love all the VW/Audi bashing here. It's hilarious how condescending some Porsche snot rags can be. Thanks for the chuckle.
Not snotty, or condescending at all. Still own a VW and an Audi.(and have had many) But the pure facts are that my Audis and VW have cost WAY more to own and maintain than my Porsches.

....and some of my VW and Audis have cost more to buy than the Porsches, So I don't know where you get this perspective at all.
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:06 PM
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Hey, just my $0.02 from a lot of posters in this particular sub-forum. I'm new to learning about the Porsche but have been a VDubber for a long, long time. Interested in the Cayenne diesel...have a Touareg TDI now, so my only exposure to the Porsche world is the Cayenne.

I can't imagine the Cayenne diesel to be less to maintain then the Touareg TDI. Oil changes every 5k for $200 a pop and any other maintenance likely higher but I don't really know for sure. That's why I'm here to learn.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:18 AM
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the VW VR6, wasnt that a narrow angle v6 1st used in sporting VWs like the GTI? I dont know VW's engine designations.

My surly comment about the V6 is based on a PITA 07 Audi A6 (I believe it was a 3.2L v6) that developed a carbon build up issue and v6 loaners (mainly Chayennes) that i get from my dealer. I find them to be rough and noisy.

Separately I find it interesting that P cant find a way to make the V8 more fuel efficient w/o restorting to turbos, especially for these 4 DR S models that can easily top $100k. I wonder if the GTS and TT are headed for the same fate.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:44 AM
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Agree the V6 gasser on the base Cayenne/Touareg is not ideal. Not enough engine/power for the weight. I think the reason P does not even attempt to make the V8 more fuel efficient without turbos is because there's no future...too little fuel economy gain for the R&D.

If you want a smooth, quiet engine the V6 turbo diesel is very quiet. The torque is amazing. Imagine what the V8 TDI is like, well, we can't in the States but in Europe...
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