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Old 06-28-2013, 02:58 PM
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So, if you have a V8 they should become more valuable over time I guess?

I am not sure why we don't switch to CNG here in the US. It is one of our most plentiful resources and burns very clean. A CNG powered V8 Cayenne would be interesting, but I am not sure how it would perform?
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not fracking interested
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not fracking interested
Touche'!
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:02 PM
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not fracking interested
nice one!
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Old 06-29-2013, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by blackland View Post
So, if you have a V8 they should become more valuable over time I guess?

I am not sure why we don't switch to CNG here in the US. It is one of our most plentiful resources and burns very clean. A CNG powered V8 Cayenne would be interesting, but I am not sure how it would perform?
I use LPG (propane / butane) in my TTS. good up to 500kw (680hp). no issues whatsoever, no power drop (got it dynoed), did 50k kms already on it since august 2011 when I had the conversion done.
there are tons of converted cars over in europe (mostly big V8s, US cars...), LPG is more widespread than CNG. CNG is mostly used in commercial vehicles, buses etc. some manufacturers have their cars CNG equipped from factory (OPEL /GM, Mercedes, VW, Skoda ... ) and get this: even Porsche had some p!gs factory equipped with LPG in Italy due to some kind of tax writeoff. I'm running the same system they used.
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Old 06-29-2013, 03:34 AM
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Please be more specific as to the pedigree of this "smoker". All diesels are not created equal, especially when comparing both sides of the Atlantic.

//greg//
13 base D with 7k
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Old 06-29-2013, 11:53 AM
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Ok, it's clear some folks are harder to please than others. At first, I thought you might have rented a base Touareg, as they get the 150hp diesel - a four banger I think. But their Cayenne Diesel has the same basic 3.0 V6 that we get, which is tuned to 245hp versus the US-spec 240. Compared to your Cayenne S however, I understand. Having said that, most Cayenne base V8 owners relate much more positive opinions of the '13 diesel.

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Old 06-29-2013, 12:04 PM
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Not an S anymore
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:31 AM
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I have a 2013 base tiptronic and I guess I am just not interested in reaching escape velocity, as I find the Porsche dressed VR6 more than ample motivation for the Cayenne. It has a nice growl and I can get 25 or 26 MPG on the highway. I have no problem passing on the turnpike. The auto trans is smooth and beautifully transfers the output to the wheels. A dependable 30 year old engine that is bullet proof and reliable. I just love it, but still get a kick out of reading all the debate over which is better the diesel or the V8 engine.
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by YRUNVS View Post
I have a 2013 base tiptronic and I guess I am just not interested in reaching escape velocity, as I find the Porsche dressed VR6 more than ample motivation for the Cayenne. It has a nice growl and I can get 25 or 26 MPG on the highway. I have no problem passing on the turnpike. The auto trans is smooth and beautifully transfers the output to the wheels. A dependable 30 year old engine that is bullet proof and reliable. I just love it, but still get a kick out of reading all the debate over which is better the diesel or the V8 engine.

Funniest thing I have read so far. It's totally fine if you are satisfied with your anemic VR6. I own a 24V VR6 in my Eurovan and a CTT. The VR6 has been exponentially less reliable than the CTT.(I've actually had to replace the VR6 with a factory crate motor) It also gets the same fuel economy at less than half the power output It growls and growns so much more than the Cayenne V8. Not smooth at all by comparison.

The VR6 is "fine" while hanging out on the freeway but it is now where near as relaxing to drive around town as the big torque of the twin turbo V8.

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Old 07-04-2013, 01:26 AM
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That is why there are choices and I am satisfied with mine. I am confident there are many who have had to deal with the cylinder scoring in the V8s and other problems. Plus there are those that have had the 24v VR6 in the Cayenne plus other vehicles and have enjoyed them. These are machines and once in a while they malfunction. Though unfortunate, the nature of the beast. Everyone has their preferences.
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:19 AM
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Same story different thread.
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Old 07-04-2013, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Cole View Post
Funniest thing I have read so far. It's totally fine if you are satisfied with your anemic VR6. I own a 24V VR6 in my Eurovan and a CTT. The VR6 has been exponentially less reliable than the CTT.(I've actually had to replace the VR6 with a factory crate motor) It also gets the same fuel economy at less than half the power output It growls and growns so much more than the Cayenne V8. Not smooth at all by comparison.

The VR6 is "fine" while hanging out on the freeway but it is now where near as relaxing to drive around town as the big torque of the twin turbo V8.
Did it ever occur to you that the Bugatti Veyron folks look down their noses at you CTT owners? Engines and transmissions have come a long ways, and the current Cayenne V6 offering can pull a fully loaded vehicle up a mountain very competently , the CD even better -- hardly anemic power trains. Need even better performance? Hit the Sport Mode button.

Not everyone finds the "big torque of the twin turbo V8" relaxing to drive around town. My wife found the response of our previous CTT overwhelming, and was nervous driving it. She currently drives the CV6, and think it's the best thing ever, although she really likes my CD.

That's OK -- make fun of my Cayennes. I really don't care, but there's always someone on the road, who is driving a more powerful vehicle than you. Just the truth.
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The joke is on them. A dying breed.
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