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Old 11-24-2011, 12:25 PM
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Default Snows:DoI need them?

The Iceland Blue **** came with new AVID envigor's by Yokohama unidirectional M+S and a set of Dunlop GRANTREK snows. Live in Columbus Ohio. I have way to many wheels and tires! Do I need them?
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The Dunlops look to be performance snow tires to me. I wouldn't trust the Yokohamas to get you to the mailbox in the snow.
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I use Granteks in the snow and I love them. They are performance snows, but they work great with the car. You should definitely use them!
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I think winter tires make a big difference, not only in snow but in cold weather on dry or wet roads. I'd keep them if I were you.
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There are many photos around of damaged Cayenne on Summer tires in the snow/ice

You don't want to be among them
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It's all about the tire compounds.
If you don't have "snowflake" sidewall tires, you will be driving on hockey pucks when it gets cold.

Of course, I won't shed a tear over another Cayenne being wrecked ...
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When I ordered my '11 CS I checked the "all season" which has been described as "no season" - and rightly so.
I drove through some winter after my pick up in Feb.
Wanting to drive to Colorado I just installed a set of Blizzaks w/ 18" 5 spoke take offs from Alex @ the Tire Rack.
What a great investment. We are in Colorado for Thanksgiving and had a chance to compare. Turning and stopping are the most obvious improvement to me. Not any deep snow to see the traction change.

I have found wheels and tire are only expensive when you are buying - very poor resale - so you may as well keep them!
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None of my vehicles run on anything but summer use tires, ever!!

Heavily siped tires, M+S, All Season, wintertime specialty tires, are an advantage ONLY when they can sink into the surface, mud, snow, slush, etc. 99.99% of the time the larger contact surface area of summer use only tires will outperform ANY wintertime specialty tire.

So for that .01% time I have a set of tire chains on board...ALWAYS. Two sets during the winter season. Rear set goes on first, even on F/awd RX300, fronts additional only when needed.
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Originally Posted by wwest
None of my vehicles run on anything but summer use tires, ever!!

Heavily siped tires, M+S, All Season, wintertime specialty tires, are an advantage ONLY when they can sink into the surface, mud, snow, slush, etc. 99.99% of the time the larger contact surface area of summer use only tires will outperform ANY wintertime specialty tire.

So for that .01% time I have a set of tire chains on board...ALWAYS. Two sets during the winter season. Rear set goes on first, even on F/awd RX300, fronts additional only when needed.
So by your "logic", a racing slick (large contact patch) would be the preferred tire 99.9% of the time.

It's so obvious now...
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Originally Posted by wwest
Heavily siped tires, M+S, All Season, wintertime specialty tires, are an advantage ONLY when they can sink into the surface, mud, snow, slush, etc. 99.99% of the time the larger contact surface area of summer use only tires will outperform ANY wintertime specialty tire.
This isn't true. I speak from personal experience.

Take a look at this video from www.tirerack.com and you'll see the difference on the hard frozen surface of an ice rink.

http://www.tirerack.com/videos/index...=26&tab=winter
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Very good link, Dennis. Thanks....



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