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Talk me out of a 2009 957 TS, 73k miles (Euro Spec)
I arrived in Germany and have been looking all over for a vehicle for several weeks. My scope is broad, however, I can always settle on a Cayenne Turbo. Was looking at an A4/S4, X5, etc., trying to keep it <$20k.
I know the cost of brake rotors is substantially higher, and that the pano roof sometimes breaks and is very expensive to fix. Aside from those items, talk me out of this:
2009 Cayenne Turbo S
I'm going to meet with the owner today or tomorrow to drive the vehicle. It has a few cosmetic blemishes on the outside, I have not seen the inside. Color combo is nice. Not sure the name/code, but it's a dark graphite/brown metallic. Interior is black/brown two tone leather with wood package. Appears to be a special order but not the wishes program.
Talk me out of this. I want to pull the trigger but I have only owned '05/06 and never a Turbo S.
Sounds like a good deal. Just beware of the fact that, unlike Americans and/or Canadians, most Europeans tend to abuse their cars and push them to the limit.
A few friends of mine got stuck with some nasty surprises when they imported some older 911's from France a few years back. Just saying....;-)
I am approaching 100k on my 2009 CTTS. Nothing compares to it that I have ever driven in the SUV category, except maybe a 2012- CTTS and that is a different animal altogether. It is an absolute beast in the power department, it drives incredibly well and is very comfortable on open roads. With PDCC, it has handling that is seriously fun and can really tear up the mountain twisties with a full load of people and gear.
Six 911s (five aircooled) and countless other cars in my background and this one is simply one of my favorites. And those brakes... nothing to sneeze at. They stop like, right NOW! Worth every penny.
Brake rotors are nothing, have you seen the prices for 98/100 octane fuel in Germany?
My wife can do 270kms on a tank (87L) and a fillup is 140 EUR.
Fortunately, I get fuel on base. Basically US prices...
Originally Posted by Libast
Talk you out of it?
Its 10 years old
Its German
Its Used
Its a special model
Its got special parts
Its not fuel efficient
Then I would never have purchased a single Porsche. Aside from brakes, what parts are special to the TS?
Originally Posted by Andy E.
Sounds like a good deal. Just beware of the fact that, unlike Americans and/or Canadians, most Europeans tend to abuse their cars and push them to the limit.
A few friends of mine got stuck with some nasty surprises when they imported some older 911's from France a few years back. Just saying....;-)
Totally valid. I'll see what the PPI says. I need it to last me 2 years with some semblance of resale on the back end...
Originally Posted by TomF
I am approaching 100k on my 2009 CTTS. Nothing compares to it that I have ever driven in the SUV category, except maybe a 2012- CTTS and that is a different animal altogether. It is an absolute beast in the power department, it drives incredibly well and is very comfortable on open roads. With PDCC, it has handling that is seriously fun and can really tear up the mountain twisties with a full load of people and gear.
Six 911s (five aircooled) and countless other cars in my background and this one is simply one of my favorites. And those brakes... nothing to sneeze at. They stop like, right NOW! Worth every penny.
Get it. You will not regret your decision.
Best,
Tom
I like your style.
Originally Posted by NelaK
Once you drive the CTTS, there won't be anything left we can say so I'll just say this:
Congratulations on the new CTTS.
Good stuff. We'll see what happens. Will all be dependent on the final price and PPI. What width brake rotor is acceptable? They I can tell they have not been replaced, but are not hurting (only 70k miles).
The front two rotors are the expensive ones. They are a two piece design but the ring is not available. New they are 380mmx38mm. The minimum thickness is specified at 36mm. It's engraved on the rotors. Porsche may have been a bit conservative with the minimum though since a lot of really heavy high end luxury cars have 380x36 rotors and they don't seem to have warping or heat issues.
The rear rotors are a little pricey but not terrible.
The front two rotors are the expensive ones. They are a two piece design but the ring is not available. New they are 380mmx38mm. The minimum thickness is specified at 36mm. It's engraved on the rotors. Porsche may have been a bit conservative with the minimum though since a lot of really heavy high end luxury cars have 380x36 rotors and they don't seem to have warping or heat issues.
The rear rotors are a little pricey but not terrible.
Yeah, $1,500 (PORSCHE) for the front two, about $300 for the back. That would hurt. Thanks for the spec on the thickness. It would be difficult to guess, but I wonder what one could expect to lose over 2 years, a few millimeters...?
I measured my rotors at 37.51mm a couple months ago. My car has 200,000km. I don't believe they've ever been changed but at that wear rate they'd last nearly 800,000km which seems like a bit much...
More likely the dealership probably changed them when I bought the car and it was just missed when I got the rest of the service history. In that case I have about 3 years on the rotors now and I have 75% remaining.
I measured my rotors at 37.51mm a couple months ago. My car has 200,000km. I don't believe they've ever been changed but at that wear rate they'd last nearly 800,000km which seems like a bit much...
More likely the dealership probably changed them when I bought the car and it was just missed when I got the rest of the service history. In that case I have about 3 years on the rotors now and I have 75% remaining.
My driving is 95% highway driving though.
Great data thanks. I think I will move ahead with the PPI and see what Porsche says. I'm sure they will (hopefully) measure the rotors.
06-26-2019, 09:22 AM
Talk me out of a 2009 957 TS, 73k miles (Euro Spec)
Basically US prices...
