Travis

Heads up, a buddy of mine saw this on carbuzz. Apparently a whole bunch of Cayennes and Panameras are affected. You can't search yet on the porsche site for whether or not you vehicle is, but I'm sure we will be able to search eventually. Use that parking brake for now!

https://carbuzz.com/news/your-porsch...assing-problem

Seems like a simple fix, wonder how long this one will take?!

Libast

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/201...QQIJwuhSyb8kxI

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/201...ExWTpC4QwLHi1M

Mark7000

From the NHTSA PDF:

Makes/Models/Model Years:
PORSCHE/CAYENNE/2004-2006, 2008-2010
PORSCHE/CAYENNE S/2003-2006
PORSCHE/CAYENNE TURBO/2003-2006
PORSCHE/CAYENNE TURBO S/2006
PORSCHE/PANAMERA/2011-2016
PORSCHE/PANAMERA 4/2011-2016
PORSCHE/PANAMERA 4S/2010-2016
PORSCHE/PANAMERA S/2010-2016
PORSCHE/PANAMERA GTS/2013-2016
PORSCHE/PANAMERA TURBO/2010-2016
PORSCHE/PANAMERA TURBO S/2012-2016

NelaK

Transport Canada's recall notice (Much more readable than the US versions!):

http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/...s=1&rn=2019290

Essentially all V6 955's and 957's
For the V8 models only the 955's. The 957's seem to be in the clear.

phatz

Why this and not engines ...liability issues?

Libast

Very sure its safety related- a blown engine, while really freaking sucks, doesn't usually cause other safety issues.

A parked vehicle that suddenly is not parked is a giant safety issue all the time.

oldskewel

Just from observations over the years, ...

Yes. It's about safety. Airbags exploding with shrapnel, rolling away in park, fuel fumes in the passenger compartment, etc. all can hurt people. Those get recalled. Both the NHTSA and the manufacturers place high value on human injury, which far exceeds costs of mechanical failures.

Mechanical problems that kill the car or require expensive repairs that are not dangerous are not covered.

There are some cases I've seen where a mechanical problem that is not directly dangerous gets recalled, and those tend to be justified by the fact that they might cause an accident due to failure while driving. For example, simple ignition switches - not going to burn the car down (probably), but if you're driving through an intersection and the car just dies due to the defect, and an accident results ... that would count. Gray area as to what defects count as being likely to cause an accident vs. not.

Once in a while there will be a civil legal action that leads to a settlement giving things like reimbursement for repairs or extended warranty. But those are rare. Bore scored engines could fit this category one day, and maybe should already, except I think it would be so expensive that Porsche will fight to the end rather than settle. When the engine in my 2004 S scored at around 47k miles in 2009, while out of warranty, Porsche was very generous with goodwill, when they did not need to be. The failed engine disappeared and was never seen again, taken away by black helicopters I think.

NelaK

A dead car is a safe car. Engine failures are a feature not a bug. Also replacing every engine that has had bore scoring issues would be enormously expensive. Much better that the customer just buys a new car with the latest safety features. They're just looking after you.

I bet all the while the dealership service advisers or technicians were claiming that your case was a freak occurrence and they've definitely never heard of this bore scoring phenomenon... I wonder what they do to the people that accidentally admit to knowing its a common issue...

Libast

A class action would make the lawyers very rich and the affected class members get a Porsche hat from old stock and a free car wash at a dealer within a 2 week timeframe.

MexicoBlueTurboS

No reason to get excited - Porsche's have been rolling away since the 80s.

C4SJOHN

Thanks for the heads up on this recall issue.

tjrob2000

Since I'm still learning things about the Cayenne correct me if I'm wrong here. Isn't the gear selector electronic and not a cable? Otherwise how would you be able to manually shift it with the wheel paddles or pushing forward/rearward on the shift lever (when in manual, of course)?

deilenberger

It's a mix. Basic functions - like going from P to R to N to D are done with a combination of cable and electronics. Shifting up and down in the transmission once you're in D are electronic.

95_993

Still waiting 5yrs for an airbag on my Mercedes,
No updates on fuel flange fix from Porsche...sadly expectations and recalls seem to lack a sense of urgency. Sigh.

tjrob2000

Ah, I see. That makes some sense. Otherwise they would just go with a **** like the new caddy's and merc's.