Nos on a boxster?
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Nos on a boxster?
I will be going out to buy a boxster in the next few months. I’m looking in to what I can do with the car. I found all the normal BPU and a supercharger. What I would like to know is if this car can handle a 100 shot of NOS or less.
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What for? stop light to stop light drag racing? Buy a Mustang instead, you'll be able to make it a lot faster than a Boxster for a lot less money. NOS isn't going to help you on the track, if anything it would be a hazard.
Unless, of course, you just want it for an occassional surprise.
There was someone with it on their car in California that I saw on one of the boards but when I asked him about it he said that it wasn't really hooked up that it was just for show.
Unless, of course, you just want it for an occassional surprise.
There was someone with it on their car in California that I saw on one of the boards but when I asked him about it he said that it wasn't really hooked up that it was just for show.
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The only reason that I was thinking about nos on the boxster was for that occassional surprise nothing else I know if i wanted to do light to light racing I would go out and buy a vette.
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I think it is pronounce NOOOZZZZ, sure you could put it on if you wanna blow the car up. The boxster was not built for that kind of thing, it is a high compression engine as is. A supercharger or turbocharger is pushing it. I would think Nitrous Oxide would definately be bad.
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The compression is too high. You'll blow the block apart. What you should do is save the money and go for some legit mods that will save you an engine in the future.
This is serious and not intended to offend:
Porsches are built VERY specifically and puting that big old bottle in it would just destroy your engine. It would be more work than just hosing it up and putting in a boost dial:
(Just a taste)
-new heads to lower comp
-new pistons to lower comp
-new rods for those new pistons
-new crank for those rods
-new cam
-new valves to accommodate heads
-new valvesprings to accomodate new heads
Being a hot-rodder myself, I know what a pain in the *** this can truely be. Porsche engines are built to withstand what the factory reccomends and nothing else, unlike many american cars or tuna racers. Ask your local dealer. I'm sure it would also void the warranty. You DON'T want that!!!
This is serious and not intended to offend:
Porsches are built VERY specifically and puting that big old bottle in it would just destroy your engine. It would be more work than just hosing it up and putting in a boost dial:
(Just a taste)
-new heads to lower comp
-new pistons to lower comp
-new rods for those new pistons
-new crank for those rods
-new cam
-new valves to accommodate heads
-new valvesprings to accomodate new heads
Being a hot-rodder myself, I know what a pain in the *** this can truely be. Porsche engines are built to withstand what the factory reccomends and nothing else, unlike many american cars or tuna racers. Ask your local dealer. I'm sure it would also void the warranty. You DON'T want that!!!
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Save the Nos for some beat up drag car P.O.S. If you don't get enough fuel in with it, you will absolutely destroy the engine. The metal in the engine will be consumed (read...FUEL) and rapidly oxidize with the Nitrous Oxide, ultimately resulting in the destruction of a very expensive engine. Nitrous basically allows you to carry more oxygen into the engine as compared to normal atmospheric aspiration. A turbocharger does the same (by compressing the air), but is not nearly as risky as the Nitrous.
My 81 Shark runs stock inners with 8.5 psig of Boost. That is risky enough, although the engine has proven very relaible for me.
Doing anything like that to a new car isn't a smart move.
My 81 Shark runs stock inners with 8.5 psig of Boost. That is risky enough, although the engine has proven very relaible for me.
Doing anything like that to a new car isn't a smart move.
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again....its not all bad....
nitrous (not nos, NOS is a brand, you
id <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> ots, no offense )
anyway...nitrous could be used....just in a small quantity on a wet setup....
wouldnt get even close to a 100 shot tho....
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nitrous (not nos, NOS is a brand, you
id <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> ots, no offense )
anyway...nitrous could be used....just in a small quantity on a wet setup....
wouldnt get even close to a 100 shot tho....
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Nitrous Oxide has no place on a Porsche. It is a hot-rodders go fast trick. Everybody knows Nos is a trade name, that isn't the dispute here. Nitrous should be saved for the drag strip, the only place it belongs.
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[quote]Originally posted by John:
<strong>Nitrous Oxide has no place on a Porsche. It is a hot-rodders go fast trick. Everybody knows Nos is a trade name, that isn't the dispute here. Nitrous should be saved for the drag strip, the only place it belongs.</strong><hr></blockquote>
"Nitrous Oxide has no place on a Porsche."
Agree.
"It is a hot-rodders go fast trick."
Agree. I wasnt a long time ago, but for the last half of this century, yes it has been.
However, are you saying porsche owners arent hot-rodders????I know many are....
"Everybody knows Nos is a trade name"
I have to disagree. Maybe you do, but most people dont. N20 was really only well known in strip and speed enthusiast circles until recently, with the release of the movie F&F. As they only mention 'NOS' in the movie, and not N2O (well they do use NOS equipment), they give off a false impression that 'NOS', is in fact the scientific name. If you look at other forums, it is mainly the term 'NOS' that is used....doesnt matter where you go (supras, vettes, porsches, nsxs etc). It doesnt seem to be shorthand, as they could use 'N20', but they dont, which leads me to believe they have been influenced by F&F. After all, no serious speed fanatic actually says 'nawz'. The term is also greatly used by people who would probally not use it themselves, which lets me know they dont know much about it, and heard of it off someone on a forum, or off watching F&F.
It seems Americans use the term much more than here in Australia, probally due to the increased ricer **** over there. (in aus we're show AND go...but we dont do stupid @ss paint jobs...).
We dont get much 'rice' over here, most people are sensible and have decent taste (most cars will be blacks, greys, yellows for imports, with NO stickers).
Back to my point tho, most people who dont drag or street race DO use the term 'NOS', which is naive.
"Nitrous should be saved for the drag strip"
Agree. That is where it works best. It isnt the most practical track application. On the streets, irresponsible use can kill someone.
BUT BACK TO WHAT HE ASKED
Nitrous CAN be used on a porsche. I am not sure how much the engine can handle, but it can be done. Should it? most porsche owners would say no.
HOWEVER, if you DID decide to use it, it must be setup properly. Go to a supra forum to get some info....
Use a wet setup, get aftermarket fuel/engine management, and use a higher level of octane (dont have nitrous but i never use anything but 98)
The aftermarket engine management could also free up some more power if correctly tuned (not much).
Safety Safety Safety with these engines....
I'd think a 50 shot would be fine if properly setup (no flames please), just not low in the rev range (kill the trans)...
If you do go with it...start with a 25 shot higher in the rev range and work from there....
email NOS, Nitrous express, talk to them etc...
There is not as much danger in using n2o as people think....as long as it is setup properly and sensibly operated.....
<strong>Nitrous Oxide has no place on a Porsche. It is a hot-rodders go fast trick. Everybody knows Nos is a trade name, that isn't the dispute here. Nitrous should be saved for the drag strip, the only place it belongs.</strong><hr></blockquote>
"Nitrous Oxide has no place on a Porsche."
Agree.
"It is a hot-rodders go fast trick."
Agree. I wasnt a long time ago, but for the last half of this century, yes it has been.
However, are you saying porsche owners arent hot-rodders????I know many are....
"Everybody knows Nos is a trade name"
I have to disagree. Maybe you do, but most people dont. N20 was really only well known in strip and speed enthusiast circles until recently, with the release of the movie F&F. As they only mention 'NOS' in the movie, and not N2O (well they do use NOS equipment), they give off a false impression that 'NOS', is in fact the scientific name. If you look at other forums, it is mainly the term 'NOS' that is used....doesnt matter where you go (supras, vettes, porsches, nsxs etc). It doesnt seem to be shorthand, as they could use 'N20', but they dont, which leads me to believe they have been influenced by F&F. After all, no serious speed fanatic actually says 'nawz'. The term is also greatly used by people who would probally not use it themselves, which lets me know they dont know much about it, and heard of it off someone on a forum, or off watching F&F.
It seems Americans use the term much more than here in Australia, probally due to the increased ricer **** over there. (in aus we're show AND go...but we dont do stupid @ss paint jobs...).
We dont get much 'rice' over here, most people are sensible and have decent taste (most cars will be blacks, greys, yellows for imports, with NO stickers).
Back to my point tho, most people who dont drag or street race DO use the term 'NOS', which is naive.
"Nitrous should be saved for the drag strip"
Agree. That is where it works best. It isnt the most practical track application. On the streets, irresponsible use can kill someone.
BUT BACK TO WHAT HE ASKED
Nitrous CAN be used on a porsche. I am not sure how much the engine can handle, but it can be done. Should it? most porsche owners would say no.
HOWEVER, if you DID decide to use it, it must be setup properly. Go to a supra forum to get some info....
Use a wet setup, get aftermarket fuel/engine management, and use a higher level of octane (dont have nitrous but i never use anything but 98)
The aftermarket engine management could also free up some more power if correctly tuned (not much).
Safety Safety Safety with these engines....
I'd think a 50 shot would be fine if properly setup (no flames please), just not low in the rev range (kill the trans)...
If you do go with it...start with a 25 shot higher in the rev range and work from there....
email NOS, Nitrous express, talk to them etc...
There is not as much danger in using n2o as people think....as long as it is setup properly and sensibly operated.....