Replacement ims bearing options
#1
Replacement ims bearing options
I am looking to replace my ims later this month. I have a 2001 base so I am not sure if I have a single or double row yet. It seems that the options generally are pelican or l&n. While I would prefer the $800 bearing I don’t really want to spend 800. The ceramic option the you tuber burner talks about from performance bearing sounds attractive. Does anyone have any experience ordering from them?
#2
Burning Brakes
Please, we are all tired of hearing about the IMS bearing and the food fight such discussions produce. Use the search function of this forum and you'll find dozens of threads with arguments for or against each option.
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#4
Race Director
My info is Porsche offers a replacement IMS bearing. It is rumored to be heavier duty than the bearing it replaces.
I just learned of this a few months before I sold my 2002 Boxster. Had I kept it it was due to get a new clutch -- at 317K miles the clutch was while not slipping required superhuman strength to depress the clutch pedal -- and at the same time have the IMS bearing replaced with the one from Porsche to document this and to also see how the original bearing held up all these years and miles. Since the IMS was symptom free I expected the IMSB to come up looking "brand new".
Regarding the Porsche IMSB replacement I don't know the part #, the cost, or how much it costs to install. 'course, the transmission has to be dropped but I don't know what the labor is to have that done. The only time my Boxster had its transmission removed was under warranty to replace a leaking RMS and I don't recall the time involved if it was even listed on the repair invoice.
I just learned of this a few months before I sold my 2002 Boxster. Had I kept it it was due to get a new clutch -- at 317K miles the clutch was while not slipping required superhuman strength to depress the clutch pedal -- and at the same time have the IMS bearing replaced with the one from Porsche to document this and to also see how the original bearing held up all these years and miles. Since the IMS was symptom free I expected the IMSB to come up looking "brand new".
Regarding the Porsche IMSB replacement I don't know the part #, the cost, or how much it costs to install. 'course, the transmission has to be dropped but I don't know what the labor is to have that done. The only time my Boxster had its transmission removed was under warranty to replace a leaking RMS and I don't recall the time involved if it was even listed on the repair invoice.
#5
I haven't gotten my trans off yet. I am going to try and get it out during the next week, I am thinking if I have a double row I will possibly leave it alone, if I have a single row I will probably change it with the pelican ims.
#6
Rennlist Member
My info is Porsche offers a replacement IMS bearing. It is rumored to be heavier duty than the bearing it replaces.
I just learned of this a few months before I sold my 2002 Boxster. Had I kept it it was due to get a new clutch -- at 317K miles the clutch was while not slipping required superhuman strength to depress the clutch pedal -- and at the same time have the IMS bearing replaced with the one from Porsche to document this and to also see how the original bearing held up all these years and miles. Since the IMS was symptom free I expected the IMSB to come up looking "brand new".
Regarding the Porsche IMSB replacement I don't know the part #, the cost, or how much it costs to install. 'course, the transmission has to be dropped but I don't know what the labor is to have that done. The only time my Boxster had its transmission removed was under warranty to replace a leaking RMS and I don't recall the time involved if it was even listed on the repair invoice.
I just learned of this a few months before I sold my 2002 Boxster. Had I kept it it was due to get a new clutch -- at 317K miles the clutch was while not slipping required superhuman strength to depress the clutch pedal -- and at the same time have the IMS bearing replaced with the one from Porsche to document this and to also see how the original bearing held up all these years and miles. Since the IMS was symptom free I expected the IMSB to come up looking "brand new".
Regarding the Porsche IMSB replacement I don't know the part #, the cost, or how much it costs to install. 'course, the transmission has to be dropped but I don't know what the labor is to have that done. The only time my Boxster had its transmission removed was under warranty to replace a leaking RMS and I don't recall the time involved if it was even listed on the repair invoice.
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#9
Race Director
My 2002 Boxster had the same cover and I posted a pic and the comment was from one of the IMSB experts that one can't always go by the IMSB end plate. The only way to be sure it to remove the cover and look at the bearing.
Yes, I remember, and in fact I think I found at least one thread where this was covered:
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...nsmission.html
The thread doesn't have the original Jake Raby post to which I referred to but he does chip again. In this case though he does indicate the odds of finding a single row bearing behind what looks from the outside a dual row IMSB end flange is rare. I have to point this was in reference to a 996 engine. I was not able to find the thread in which I posted a pic. (Doing a search for blah blah IMSB blah blah and you get about a zillion hits.)
Yes, I remember, and in fact I think I found at least one thread where this was covered:
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...nsmission.html
The thread doesn't have the original Jake Raby post to which I referred to but he does chip again. In this case though he does indicate the odds of finding a single row bearing behind what looks from the outside a dual row IMSB end flange is rare. I have to point this was in reference to a 996 engine. I was not able to find the thread in which I posted a pic. (Doing a search for blah blah IMSB blah blah and you get about a zillion hits.)
#10
Macster did you have a single or double?
my dilemma is whether or not to replace the double out at all. I think with a 1% failure rate is lower compared to me screwing something up.
my dilemma is whether or not to replace the double out at all. I think with a 1% failure rate is lower compared to me screwing something up.
#11
Race Director
My 2002 Boxster was very close -- minutes away -- from needing a new clutch (at 317K miles) and at this time I was going to have the Porsche tech replace the IMSB with the Porsche bearing mainly just to see what the old bearing was and that it looked like after 317K miles (I expect it would have looked like "new" otherwise it would have deteriorated to the point of failure) but a persistent P1128 error code and of course a CEL (I have this looked into 3 times by 2 different Porsche dealers and both were unable to offer a diagnosis... the 2nd dealer pretty much wanted a blank check to pursue this and I was not willing to do this) brought my time with my Boxster to an end. Because with the CEL I could not smog the car here in CA and could not register it I sold the car to a local Porsche dealer and his plan was to run the car through an auction as a "roller".
#12
Rennlist Member
Double row IMS bearing version (original cover dish depth = 13.34 mm)
Easy measurement just to be sure.
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