scca stock class becoming street class!
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Nope, base 986 got moved up to BS alongside the 986S as part of the transition to Street.
A bunch of people (myself included) tried 986S's against S2000s back in the R-compound days and gave up. Not sure how much the switch to street tires would change the balance of power, but that's not a bet I'd be keen on taking.
A bunch of people (myself included) tried 986S's against S2000s back in the R-compound days and gave up. Not sure how much the switch to street tires would change the balance of power, but that's not a bet I'd be keen on taking.
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Yeah, 986 was quietly booted up to BS this year for some reasons. 986S isn't the car to have in BS, but I think it's close enough to be reasonably competitive, especially regionally.
Koni yellow were always an option, but a royally difficult one. This makes it a whole lot easier to retrofit.
Koni yellow were always an option, but a royally difficult one. This makes it a whole lot easier to retrofit.
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Ok, next question, between the BS options (986, 986S, 987 non-S) which one and why?
986 550 spyder unicorn model? 987 Cayman? Are they all stuck with an e-diff? Can one get camber? Does one have a wide wheel secret option?
What keeps them from being competitive against the S2k? Gearing? Camber? Diff?
Early 987 prices look pretty attractive, nice looking 5-speed cars for <$18k. Could be a nice 3-season DD, although I've never driven any Boxster.
Basically I'm looking for any excuse not to just pick up a new Fiesta ST
986 550 spyder unicorn model? 987 Cayman? Are they all stuck with an e-diff? Can one get camber? Does one have a wide wheel secret option?
What keeps them from being competitive against the S2k? Gearing? Camber? Diff?
Early 987 prices look pretty attractive, nice looking 5-speed cars for <$18k. Could be a nice 3-season DD, although I've never driven any Boxster.
Basically I'm looking for any excuse not to just pick up a new Fiesta ST
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Debateable which would be faster -- 986S or 987. The 986 has more power, the 987 has wider front wheels (even wider than first realized since Audii-Dudii figured out that 8.5s are legal in front).
The Anniversary Edition 986S is overrated -- the only differences are M030 (which is available for non-Anniversary cars), 5 mm wheel spacers, and a microscopic 6 hp power bump. I'd get an otherwise-identical 2003 for a lot less money.
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As sjfehr wrote, you'd do just fine regionally in either car, and Kenny Sorensen (RIP) managed to trophy in a base Boxster in 2011, but I wouldn't want to bring either to Lincoln.
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Any insight on just how far away the base 986 was to being allowed in STR? I don't want to beat a dead horse, but they really seem like a perfect fit. Donors under $10k all day, good aftermarket support, low powered roadster. At least they make more sense than my car, an S54 Z3 M coupe, or the 370z.
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Any insight on just how far away the base 986 was to being allowed in STR? I don't want to beat a dead horse, but they really seem like a perfect fit. Donors under $10k all day, good aftermarket support, low powered roadster. At least they make more sense than my car, an S54 Z3 M coupe, or the 370z.
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The '84 is a bit of a pain on long drives, especially in summer. I'd dig a good place to play for one of the affordable circa '99 or so Porsches. An STR Boxster or STU 996 would be a lot of fun to try, hence my letter. But alas.
So, which Boxster for BS then?
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If you see the threat and costs of the MK1 MR2 vs the 986 as similar, we really can't have this discussion because we are on opposite sides of that key point.
I would not be buying any Boxster for BS. C5/370/S2k would be my choices and since I love Pro Solo I don't see how C5 wouldn't be the answer.
I would not be buying any Boxster for BS. C5/370/S2k would be my choices and since I love Pro Solo I don't see how C5 wouldn't be the answer.
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Ok, next question, between the BS options (986, 986S, 987 non-S) which one and why?
986 550 spyder unicorn model? 987 Cayman? Are they all stuck with an e-diff? Can one get camber? Does one have a wide wheel secret option?
What keeps them from being competitive against the S2k? Gearing? Camber? Diff?
986 550 spyder unicorn model? 987 Cayman? Are they all stuck with an e-diff? Can one get camber? Does one have a wide wheel secret option?
What keeps them from being competitive against the S2k? Gearing? Camber? Diff?
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Can 13.9.G be called into effect to "fix" a 987 PSM? A lot of people didn't notice this made it into the Street rules, myself included.
G. On cars without the ability to turn off electronic stability control and/
or traction control (ESC/TC) from the manufacturer, modifications to
defeat the ESC/TC are permitted. These modification are limited to
altering the inputs to the ESC/TC processor (e.g., removing fuses,
unplugging yaw or steering angle sensors, altering signals) and may
serve no other purpose. Any codes or error lights resulting from ESC/
TC modifications are permitted.
or traction control (ESC/TC) from the manufacturer, modifications to
defeat the ESC/TC are permitted. These modification are limited to
altering the inputs to the ESC/TC processor (e.g., removing fuses,
unplugging yaw or steering angle sensors, altering signals) and may
serve no other purpose. Any codes or error lights resulting from ESC/
TC modifications are permitted.
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Street tires really compressed a lot of the classes- SS is closer to HS than SSR is to HSR . There is not a whole lot of time separating CS from BS, so I don't think it's as big of a crush to regional competitors as it might seem. (Well, aside from C5s cleaning up on faster courses at least.)