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Old 11-30-2018, 10:26 AM
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I'm considering upgrading to either a 718 Cayman GTS or a 911 Carrera T, with a max budget of ~$100K (looking at used for Carerra T). I currently have an A Street base 718 Cayman and realize I'd be giving up on a car that is classed much better. I'm also aware that both of these options would somewhat be underdogs in SS against the GT3/GT4. Nonetheless, I'm looking for some feedback as to which of these would be the better choice from an autocross prospective. Thanks!

The 718 Cayman GTS:
Pros
  1. PDK offered with good torque/gearing (or lighter weight 6spd manual, but with inferior gearing)
  2. Fairly lightweight ~3,050lbs
  3. Decent tire and wheel options (20x8.5 and 20x10.5 as a factory option), can run 19's, but wheels need to be custom.
  4. Mid-engine balance
  5. PTV Standard
  6. Nice interior standard
  7. Price ~$95K or <$85k for used.
Cons
  1. Turbo lag
  2. Limited alignment adjustability
The 911 Carrera T:
Pros
  1. 7spd Manual transmission with tighter gearing and shorter final drive
  2. Fairly lightweight ~3150lbs
  3. Rear-axle steering as an option
  4. Good off-the-shelf wheel options (20x8.5 and 20x11.5 stock).
  5. Nice sport seats standard
  6. PTV standard
  7. Sport Chrono without the heavy Dynamic engine mounts.
  8. Carbon buckets as an option
Cons
  1. Price ~$100K for used.
  2. Weight? (heavier than Cayman)
  3. Rear engine
  4. I believe I need to run 20" wheel and tires for rear-axle steering option (RE71R's only offered in 245/35r20 and 295/35r20).
  5. I'm assuming similar alignment limitations, but don't know enough.

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Old 11-30-2018, 11:44 AM
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I'm looking pretty hard at a 981 Cayman GTS for AS; probably still not as quick as the top Z06s, but would be an all-around awesome car and my new daily-driver, too.
Old 11-30-2018, 12:07 PM
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If you're looking at used cars in this price range already and would consider the manual trans in the 911T, why not consider a GT4? It's a proven winner in SS, same daily limitations as a 718 GTS and will probably hold value better than both.

Between the two, I'd go for 911 T, but I am not a fan of the flat 4 sound in the 718 even though it may be a better autocross car
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Originally Posted by chriswd62
The 911 Carrera T:
Good off-the-shelf wheel options (20x8.5 and 20x11.5 stock).

I believe I need to run 20" wheel and tires for rear-axle steering option (RE71R's only offered in 245/35r20 and 295/35r20).
Don't forget about the SCCA's +/- 1" wheel option if you're planning to run with them -- if the best stock wheels are 20s, then you can run 19s in Street.
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I think he's saying 19s won't fit with the RAS system, but I don't know either if that's the case, just what I assumed
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Originally Posted by sholzer
I think he's saying 19s won't fit with the RAS system, but I don't know either if that's the case, just what I assumed
Yes. From what I've read 19" wheels won't work with the RAS system.
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Originally Posted by sholzer
If you're looking at used cars in this price range already and would consider the manual trans in the 911T, why not consider a GT4? It's a proven winner in SS, same daily limitations as a 718 GTS and will probably hold value better than both.

Between the two, I'd go for 911 T, but I am not a fan of the flat 4 sound in the 718 even though it may be a better autocross car
I did consider it, but just don't feel it's as versatile at the T or GTS. If it was only a track/autocross car then I would go with the GT4.
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Originally Posted by chriswd62
I did consider it, but just don't feel it's as versatile at the T or GTS. If it was only a track/autocross car then I would go with the GT4.
There is a nice 911T in the classified section right now. Would have been very tempting if it had popped up before I picked up my GT4.


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