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02-21-2012, 08:52 PM
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Some good articles & facts on this site:
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/index.htm
Try this hearing test:
http://www.freemosquitoringtones.org/
If you are older or have been around a lot of noise (races etc.)
your hearing is probably shot anyway.
Save money- don't fall for the big $$$ cables...
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/index.htm
Try this hearing test:
http://www.freemosquitoringtones.org/
If you are older or have been around a lot of noise (races etc.)
your hearing is probably shot anyway.
Save money- don't fall for the big $$$ cables...
As for the hearing test ... I wont' bother. Many many years ago I had exceptional hearing for both level and high frequency discrimination, but much like my eyesight (legally blind....what chart on the wall...what wall), my hearing is pretty much shot.
02-21-2012, 09:03 PM
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There is physics behind "cable break-in"? Must be quantum or something yet to be discovered 
I break in my speaker cables by running 100 watt light bulbs with them
I break in my speaker cables by running 100 watt light bulbs with them
02-22-2012, 08:16 AM
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LTC can you comment more about the weaknesses of that cable website? as a layman, when i read this article:
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/whatwiredoes.htm
I feel like I am much better informed about some of the basic problems wires have to overcome in order to do a good job. But you mentioned that site is a waste of server space. Is the article I linked to innacurate? Can you post a better link where I can learn about the fundamentals of what makes cables effective/innefective?
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/whatwiredoes.htm
I feel like I am much better informed about some of the basic problems wires have to overcome in order to do a good job. But you mentioned that site is a waste of server space. Is the article I linked to innacurate? Can you post a better link where I can learn about the fundamentals of what makes cables effective/innefective?
02-22-2012, 09:52 AM
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As an electrical engineer, I am merely fascinated by whatever physics is behind cable break in, as I had never heard of such a thing until I stumbled across the aforementioned website (while doing a search for something completely unrelated to audio...non linear analog compensation for battery pack monitoring)
I have no interest in money, profit margins, business arguments, etc.
I am merely at a loss as to what is being broken in by such a simple burn in circuit.
This has piqued my interest and serves as a relaxing diversion, as I search the web and read what has been written.
I have no interest in money, profit margins, business arguments, etc.
I am merely at a loss as to what is being broken in by such a simple burn in circuit.
This has piqued my interest and serves as a relaxing diversion, as I search the web and read what has been written.
02-22-2012, 02:31 PM
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Of course we aren't even discussing the fact that all gear is affected by whatever the household current decides to offer on any given occasion coupled with interference caused by other things in the house or nearby. Getting your household current under control and your room isolated is first and foremost, otherwise it really takes the wind out of anything a good cable can/cannot do.
02-22-2012, 05:26 PM
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Well, I can't find anything on cable burn (but I did enjoy the link previously posted describing the effect of insulator charging), so I'll drag out that old chestnut "The Essex Echo" for fun. This always gets a good argument going with the "Home Depot extension cord speaker cable" crowd.
The Essex Echo
The Essex Echo
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02-22-2012, 10:12 PM
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Maybe a room such as this warrants the big $$$
cables, but most installations do well with a lot less...
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Iss...avigneroom.htm
cables, but most installations do well with a lot less...
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Iss...avigneroom.htm
02-22-2012, 10:22 PM
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I just wear my aluminum foil hat for the first 12.75 listening sessions.
After that it sounds fine.
PS. I also wrap my ***** in aluminum foil too, but admittedly, this is for my own amusement and does not effect the listening experience.
After that it sounds fine.
PS. I also wrap my ***** in aluminum foil too, but admittedly, this is for my own amusement and does not effect the listening experience.
02-22-2012, 11:09 PM
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02-23-2012, 09:12 AM
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Of course we aren't even discussing the fact that all gear is affected by whatever the household current decides to offer on any given occasion coupled with interference caused by other things in the house or nearby. Getting your household current under control and your room isolated is first and foremost, otherwise it really takes the wind out of anything a good cable can/cannot do.
02-23-2012, 03:13 PM
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Of course we aren't even discussing the fact that all gear is affected by whatever the household current decides to offer on any given occasion coupled with interference caused by other things in the house or nearby. Getting your household current under control and your room isolated is first and foremost, otherwise it really takes the wind out of anything a good cable can/cannot do.
You should also enclose your listening room in a Farraday shield/screen room, to provide radiated immunity (having eliminated conducted immunity with the isolated PV/inverter installation).
Without diverging too far into the weeds, I am just going to go off and try and see if there is any engineering analysis/research/measurements into 'cable burn-in'.
I will report back if I find anything interesting....
02-23-2012, 03:18 PM
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LTC can you comment more about the weaknesses of that cable website? as a layman, when i read this article:
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/whatwiredoes.htm
I feel like I am much better informed about some of the basic problems wires have to overcome in order to do a good job. But you mentioned that site is a waste of server space. Is the article I linked to innacurate? Can you post a better link where I can learn about the fundamentals of what makes cables effective/innefective?
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/whatwiredoes.htm
I feel like I am much better informed about some of the basic problems wires have to overcome in order to do a good job. But you mentioned that site is a waste of server space. Is the article I linked to innacurate? Can you post a better link where I can learn about the fundamentals of what makes cables effective/innefective?
02-24-2012, 08:41 AM
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I have the Pole Pig for the front end stuff-but use a separate commercial grade power supply to regulate and maintain current from the house to the system. It has dual meters-one that shows whats coming in and one that shows what goes out. You would be surprised to see how much the voltage fluctuates coming out of the wall!
My phono preamp (ASR) is battery powered.
I have the Pole Pig for the front end stuff-but use a separate commercial grade power supply to regulate and maintain current from the house to the system. It has dual meters-one that shows whats coming in and one that shows what goes out. You would be surprised to see how much the voltage fluctuates coming out of the wall!
My phono preamp (ASR) is battery powered.
02-24-2012, 10:34 AM
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Now my email inbox is taunting me .... I have no idea who/how I received this
http://www.avguide.com/buyers-guide/...le+Articles%29
http://www.avguide.com/buyers-guide/...le+Articles%29
02-24-2012, 10:42 AM
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This is like a Mobius loop of technical insanity.
I had never heard of Richard Gray, so I googled.
I read this and had to stop...
http://www.richardgrayspowercompany.com/power.html
Power Isolation/Purification
AV Grade Magnetic Isolation, that creates a brand new (dedicated) AC delivery system, clean and free from any electrical pollution headroom
Electrical pollution headroom? Please make this insanity stop.
I can see where PSRR would be an issue, but putting some iron and a few passive components in a box?
The one eyed man is a leader in the valley of the blind.
I had never heard of Richard Gray, so I googled.
I read this and had to stop...
http://www.richardgrayspowercompany.com/power.html
Power Isolation/Purification
AV Grade Magnetic Isolation, that creates a brand new (dedicated) AC delivery system, clean and free from any electrical pollution headroom
Electrical pollution headroom? Please make this insanity stop.
I can see where PSRR would be an issue, but putting some iron and a few passive components in a box?
The one eyed man is a leader in the valley of the blind.