Upgraded PCM 3.1 Hard Drive to SSD
#693
Instructor
#694
Race Car
You can't upgrade from IDE to SATA they have different protocols and the PCM doesn't understand it. You can upgrade from mechanical IDE to SSD IDE - the performance of the IDE vs SATA for SSD is the same. There is no advantage other than cost as the IDE solution is more expensive.
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Mike981S (08-12-2024)
#695
You can't upgrade from IDE to SATA they have different protocols and the PCM doesn't understand it. You can upgrade from mechanical IDE to SSD IDE - the performance of the IDE vs SATA for SSD is the same. There is no advantage other than cost as the IDE solution is more expensive.
This made me think that maybe SATA drives could be used in an IDE PCM. However, it's not just the interface; the file system layouts are also different so you'll have to write an IDE drive image onto a SATA SSD to begin with; and even then there are no guarantees whether it will work or not, but if I had an IDE PCM I'd give it a try.
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Mike981S (08-19-2024)
#696
1. Your original IDE drive is in full working condition (if not I have a few IDE drive images that we could try, but this is uncharted territory so I'd prefer the original drive from the original vehicle as clone source)
2. You can eBay or otherwise source that small adapter board that's in the picture one post above
3. You're feeling adventurous
#698
Race Car
I have a working IDE solution if anyone needs it - PM me
I also tried various adaptors etc they didn't work and there isn't enough space for them to fit
I also tried various adaptors etc they didn't work and there isn't enough space for them to fit
#699
Pro
This is true but I've also noticed that the small adapter board that you plug the SATA drive into is actually an IDE-SATA converter board. If you zoom into the chip that's on the board you'll see it's a Marvell 88SA8052 IDE-SATA bridge chip. So even if the drive is SATA, the head unit sees an IDE drive plugged in.
This made me think that maybe SATA drives could be used in an IDE PCM. However, it's not just the interface; the file system layouts are also different so you'll have to write an IDE drive image onto a SATA SSD to begin with; and even then there are no guarantees whether it will work or not, but if I had an IDE PCM I'd give it a try.
This made me think that maybe SATA drives could be used in an IDE PCM. However, it's not just the interface; the file system layouts are also different so you'll have to write an IDE drive image onto a SATA SSD to begin with; and even then there are no guarantees whether it will work or not, but if I had an IDE PCM I'd give it a try.
- Get a standalone cloner. I got
- Get the SATA/IDE adapter to be able to plug the IDE drive into the cloner (though it turned out that it was not fitting in, so I needed to get the cable in point 3). I got
- In order to fit the SATA connection into the cloner, I got a
- You can either get #2 and #3 twice, or - as I did - get a where you put the SSD card in while you clone the disk (will save you a few bucks).
I then got the following two items to create a IDE-based SSD drive to clone the data to:
- An
- The IDE compatible housing for the MSATA drive to be installed into the PCM. I first ordered one that was apparently too cheap to work. Someone in this thread recommended the which worked for me.
Cloning the IDE harddrive to the SSD card.
After the cloning completes, I removed the SSD card from the SATA housing and put it into the IDE housing and installed the drive back in.
Make sure that the flat cable in the PCM connector is also connected correctly (otherwise it will not load correctly).
Note: This of course only works for drives that are not yet corrupted.
Last edited by Mike981S; 08-19-2024 at 10:01 PM.
#700
ssd cloning pcm3.1 firmware, need help
hello,
while I was cloning pcm3.1(from 2015 cayman) hdd to sdd, hdd went dead...
I'm kind of middle of no where and really looking for pcm firmware..
have been looking for everywhere but couldn't find one.
Can anybody please please... help me.. with pcm firmware...
while I was cloning pcm3.1(from 2015 cayman) hdd to sdd, hdd went dead...
I'm kind of middle of no where and really looking for pcm firmware..
have been looking for everywhere but couldn't find one.
Can anybody please please... help me.. with pcm firmware...
#701
can I get some help?
[QUOTE=Mike981S;19605333]Here is how I copied my IDE drive to an SSD
My hdd went dead on the middle of cloning..
Is there any chance I could get help with pcm firmware ISO file ?..
My hdd went dead on the middle of cloning..
Is there any chance I could get help with pcm firmware ISO file ?..
#702
Here is how I copied my IDE drive to an SSD:
I then got the following two items to create a IDE-based SSD drive to clone the data to:
Cloning the IDE harddrive to the SSD card.
After the cloning completes, I removed the SSD card from the SATA housing and put it into the IDE housing and installed the drive back in.
Make sure that the flat cable in the PCM connector is also connected correctly (otherwise it will not load correctly).
Note: This of course only works for drives that are not yet corrupted.
- Get a standalone cloner. I got SABRENT USB Type C SATA 2.5” & 3.5” Dual Bay Hard Drive Docking Station | Offline Cloning | Up to 5Gbps | Tool Free Installation (EC-CH2B)
- Get the SATA/IDE adapter to be able to plug the IDE drive into the cloner (though it turned out that it was not fitting in, so I needed to get the cable in point 3). I got NFHK IDE 44Pin Disk to SATA Female Converter Adapter PCBA for Laptop 2.5" Hard Disk Drive
- In order to fit the SATA connection into the cloner, I got a straight SATA Extension Cable SATA III 3.0 22Pin SATA Male to Female Data Power Extension Cable
- You can either get #2 and #3 twice, or - as I did - get a mSATA to 2.5 Inch SATA III Aluminum Enclosure Adapter where you put the SSD card in while you clone the disk (will save you a few bucks).
I then got the following two items to create a IDE-based SSD drive to clone the data to:
- An SSD MSATA 128GB Internal Solid State Drive
- The IDE compatible housing for the MSATA drive to be installed into the PCM. I first ordered one that was apparently too cheap to work. Someone in this thread recommended the Ableconn IIDE-MSAT mSATA SSD to 2.5-Inch IDE Adapter Converter with Aluminum Frame Bracket which worked for me.
Cloning the IDE harddrive to the SSD card.
After the cloning completes, I removed the SSD card from the SATA housing and put it into the IDE housing and installed the drive back in.
Make sure that the flat cable in the PCM connector is also connected correctly (otherwise it will not load correctly).
Note: This of course only works for drives that are not yet corrupted.
Is there any chance I could get help with pcm firmware ISO file ?..
#703
Race Car
You won't need the ISO firmware file just yet you will need to make a new clean hard drive.
There are a few options - buy one from me or the other guy selling them. Or look back through this thread and find the Clonezilla file someone kindly uploaded.
Write it to a new hard drive and install it. Then run the update DVD or unzip the update to a USB stick and use that.
There are a few options - buy one from me or the other guy selling them. Or look back through this thread and find the Clonezilla file someone kindly uploaded.
Write it to a new hard drive and install it. Then run the update DVD or unzip the update to a USB stick and use that.
#704