PCCB Brake Pads
08-02-2017, 08:56 PM
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Brake parts assembly grease, slather it on the back side of the pads, spray rotors with brake cleaner spray to get rid of residual brake dust in holes etc.
08-03-2017, 12:09 PM
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Brake assembly grease between the brake pad backing plate and metal shim or on the metal shim where the pistons touch?
08-03-2017, 12:28 PM
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08-03-2017, 12:31 PM
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08-03-2017, 12:38 PM
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Heat is the primary cause of PCCB wear...more heat, more wear no matter what kind of pad you use. RSC1 will have a higher friction level than a stock pad but brake usage duration should go down. In normal street driving I'm not sure you'd notice much of a difference. Pagid makes up to 3 versions of the RSC pads with RSC1 being the least aggressive. It's been VERY popular.
08-06-2017, 07:30 PM
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I did the pad change this weekend, time for a little writeup 
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All in all it was pretty easy, no real skill required. Just be careful and use the guide pins (99957107430) to safely remove the rims. I took my time as it was the first time doing it but next time I think I could do it in 2hrs or less.
There weren't any dampeners present (front or rear) and I didn't place them either. The new pads were Porsche OEM and labeled as Pagid P40-3FF, I measured them at 11mm. The rears were down to 4mm and were showing the brass rivets, the fronts were at 8mm with minor surface cracking. I don't know if these are original pads, if they are then they have 50k km on them. Decided to replace all round as I had already purchased them and will save the fronts incase I need them in the future.
A pad spreader is not needed. To get the old pads out I used a small bar clamp to spread them (search "mini ratchet bar clamps"). To put the new pads in, the pistons have to be all the way in. The pistons are all connected so when you push one back another comes back out a bit. I had no trouble getting them all flush with two of those clamps and my thumbs.
I bought new rear caliper bolts, do not use loctite, just torque to spec. When removing the bolted pin on the front calipers that hold the pads in place I did see there previously was green loctite. I cleaned them up and torqued them to spec, I did not reapply loctite as the service manual doesn't indicate it.
I replaced wear sensors but they are very easy to get out. If you want to save them take the pads out with the sensors in place then wiggle them out with a small flathead.
Only part I struggled with the was the rear retaining clip
. It was hard to get back in and space was tight. After much swearing I found its super easy to do if you just put one side in place then give the other side a good tap with a hammer and brass rod. Removing the front clips is easy if you tap the clip with a rubber hammer while you're pulling out the pin, same with reassembly.
A dealer quoted me €2500 and my indy €2200 (although included in their quote were €300 worth of dampeners which aren't required) and I purchased parts from Sonnen for ~€900 + €250 import taxes/duties. So a fun afternoon and lots of savings, I think I'm hooked on DIY
.
.All in all it was pretty easy, no real skill required. Just be careful and use the guide pins (99957107430) to safely remove the rims. I took my time as it was the first time doing it but next time I think I could do it in 2hrs or less.
There weren't any dampeners present (front or rear) and I didn't place them either. The new pads were Porsche OEM and labeled as Pagid P40-3FF, I measured them at 11mm. The rears were down to 4mm and were showing the brass rivets, the fronts were at 8mm with minor surface cracking. I don't know if these are original pads, if they are then they have 50k km on them. Decided to replace all round as I had already purchased them and will save the fronts incase I need them in the future.
A pad spreader is not needed. To get the old pads out I used a small bar clamp to spread them (search "mini ratchet bar clamps"). To put the new pads in, the pistons have to be all the way in. The pistons are all connected so when you push one back another comes back out a bit. I had no trouble getting them all flush with two of those clamps and my thumbs.
I bought new rear caliper bolts, do not use loctite, just torque to spec. When removing the bolted pin on the front calipers that hold the pads in place I did see there previously was green loctite. I cleaned them up and torqued them to spec, I did not reapply loctite as the service manual doesn't indicate it.
I replaced wear sensors but they are very easy to get out. If you want to save them take the pads out with the sensors in place then wiggle them out with a small flathead.
Only part I struggled with the was the rear retaining clip
. It was hard to get back in and space was tight. After much swearing I found its super easy to do if you just put one side in place then give the other side a good tap with a hammer and brass rod. Removing the front clips is easy if you tap the clip with a rubber hammer while you're pulling out the pin, same with reassembly. A dealer quoted me €2500 and my indy €2200 (although included in their quote were €300 worth of dampeners which aren't required) and I purchased parts from Sonnen for ~€900 + €250 import taxes/duties. So a fun afternoon and lots of savings, I think I'm hooked on DIY
.
08-06-2017, 09:25 PM
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my front pads reading 5 mm and the rear is 7 mm, the question is "do I must change all four corners or can I just replace the front pads?"
I am afraid the new pads are much thicker upfront (11 mm) vs the rear pads (7 mm), would that impact braking performance or cause any uneven damages down the line? Thanks in advance.
I am afraid the new pads are much thicker upfront (11 mm) vs the rear pads (7 mm), would that impact braking performance or cause any uneven damages down the line? Thanks in advance.
08-07-2017, 01:48 AM
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I did the pad change this weekend, time for a little writeup .
All in all it was pretty easy, no real skill required. Just be careful and use the guide pins (99957107430) to safely remove the rims. I took my time as it was the first time doing it but next time I think I could do it in 2hrs or less.
There weren't any dampeners present (front or rear) and I didn't place them either. The new pads were Porsche OEM and labeled as Pagid P40-3FF, I measured them at 11mm. The rears were down to 4mm and were showing the brass rivets, the fronts were at 8mm with minor surface cracking. I don't know if these are original pads, if they are then they have 50k km on them. Decided to replace all round as I had already purchased them and will save the fronts incase I need them in the future.
A pad spreader is not needed. To get the old pads out I used a small bar clamp to spread them (search "mini ratchet bar clamps"). To put the new pads in, the pistons have to be all the way in. The pistons are all connected so when you push one back another comes back out a bit. I had no trouble getting them all flush with two of those clamps and my thumbs.
I bought new rear caliper bolts, do not use loctite, just torque to spec. When removing the bolted pin on the front calipers that hold the pads in place I did see there previously was green loctite. I cleaned them up and torqued them to spec, I did not reapply loctite as the service manual doesn't indicate it.
I replaced wear sensors but they are very easy to get out. If you want to save them take the pads out with the sensors in place then wiggle them out with a small flathead.
Only part I struggled with the was the rear retaining clip. It was hard to get back in and space was tight. After much swearing I found its super easy to do if you just put one side in place then give the other side a good tap with a hammer and brass rod. Removing the front clips is easy if you tap the clip with a rubber hammer while you're pulling out the pin, same with reassembly.
A dealer quoted me €2500 and my indy €2200 (although included in their quote were €300 worth of dampeners which aren't required) and I purchased parts from Sonnen for ~€900 + €250 import taxes/duties. So a fun afternoon and lots of savings, I think I'm hooked on DIY.
.All in all it was pretty easy, no real skill required. Just be careful and use the guide pins (99957107430) to safely remove the rims. I took my time as it was the first time doing it but next time I think I could do it in 2hrs or less.
There weren't any dampeners present (front or rear) and I didn't place them either. The new pads were Porsche OEM and labeled as Pagid P40-3FF, I measured them at 11mm. The rears were down to 4mm and were showing the brass rivets, the fronts were at 8mm with minor surface cracking. I don't know if these are original pads, if they are then they have 50k km on them. Decided to replace all round as I had already purchased them and will save the fronts incase I need them in the future.
A pad spreader is not needed. To get the old pads out I used a small bar clamp to spread them (search "mini ratchet bar clamps"). To put the new pads in, the pistons have to be all the way in. The pistons are all connected so when you push one back another comes back out a bit. I had no trouble getting them all flush with two of those clamps and my thumbs.
I bought new rear caliper bolts, do not use loctite, just torque to spec. When removing the bolted pin on the front calipers that hold the pads in place I did see there previously was green loctite. I cleaned them up and torqued them to spec, I did not reapply loctite as the service manual doesn't indicate it.
I replaced wear sensors but they are very easy to get out. If you want to save them take the pads out with the sensors in place then wiggle them out with a small flathead.
Only part I struggled with the was the rear retaining clip
. It was hard to get back in and space was tight. After much swearing I found its super easy to do if you just put one side in place then give the other side a good tap with a hammer and brass rod. Removing the front clips is easy if you tap the clip with a rubber hammer while you're pulling out the pin, same with reassembly. A dealer quoted me €2500 and my indy €2200 (although included in their quote were €300 worth of dampeners which aren't required) and I purchased parts from Sonnen for ~€900 + €250 import taxes/duties. So a fun afternoon and lots of savings, I think I'm hooked on DIY
.Yes, no dampeners required here on these calipers.
08-31-2017, 02:24 AM
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I did the pad change this weekend, time for a little writeup .
All in all it was pretty easy, no real skill required. Just be careful and use the guide pins (99957107430) to safely remove the rims. I took my time as it was the first time doing it but next time I think I could do it in 2hrs or less.
There weren't any dampeners present (front or rear) and I didn't place them either. The new pads were Porsche OEM and labeled as Pagid P40-3FF, I measured them at 11mm. The rears were down to 4mm and were showing the brass rivets, the fronts were at 8mm with minor surface cracking. I don't know if these are original pads, if they are then they have 50k km on them. Decided to replace all round as I had already purchased them and will save the fronts incase I need them in the future.
A pad spreader is not needed. To get the old pads out I used a small bar clamp to spread them (search "mini ratchet bar clamps"). To put the new pads in, the pistons have to be all the way in. The pistons are all connected so when you push one back another comes back out a bit. I had no trouble getting them all flush with two of those clamps and my thumbs.
I bought new rear caliper bolts, do not use loctite, just torque to spec. When removing the bolted pin on the front calipers that hold the pads in place I did see there previously was green loctite. I cleaned them up and torqued them to spec, I did not reapply loctite as the service manual doesn't indicate it.
I replaced wear sensors but they are very easy to get out. If you want to save them take the pads out with the sensors in place then wiggle them out with a small flathead.
Only part I struggled with the was the rear retaining clip. It was hard to get back in and space was tight. After much swearing I found its super easy to do if you just put one side in place then give the other side a good tap with a hammer and brass rod. Removing the front clips is easy if you tap the clip with a rubber hammer while you're pulling out the pin, same with reassembly.
A dealer quoted me €2500 and my indy €2200 (although included in their quote were €300 worth of dampeners which aren't required) and I purchased parts from Sonnen for ~€900 + €250 import taxes/duties. So a fun afternoon and lots of savings, I think I'm hooked on DIY.
.All in all it was pretty easy, no real skill required. Just be careful and use the guide pins (99957107430) to safely remove the rims. I took my time as it was the first time doing it but next time I think I could do it in 2hrs or less.
There weren't any dampeners present (front or rear) and I didn't place them either. The new pads were Porsche OEM and labeled as Pagid P40-3FF, I measured them at 11mm. The rears were down to 4mm and were showing the brass rivets, the fronts were at 8mm with minor surface cracking. I don't know if these are original pads, if they are then they have 50k km on them. Decided to replace all round as I had already purchased them and will save the fronts incase I need them in the future.
A pad spreader is not needed. To get the old pads out I used a small bar clamp to spread them (search "mini ratchet bar clamps"). To put the new pads in, the pistons have to be all the way in. The pistons are all connected so when you push one back another comes back out a bit. I had no trouble getting them all flush with two of those clamps and my thumbs.
I bought new rear caliper bolts, do not use loctite, just torque to spec. When removing the bolted pin on the front calipers that hold the pads in place I did see there previously was green loctite. I cleaned them up and torqued them to spec, I did not reapply loctite as the service manual doesn't indicate it.
I replaced wear sensors but they are very easy to get out. If you want to save them take the pads out with the sensors in place then wiggle them out with a small flathead.
Only part I struggled with the was the rear retaining clip
. It was hard to get back in and space was tight. After much swearing I found its super easy to do if you just put one side in place then give the other side a good tap with a hammer and brass rod. Removing the front clips is easy if you tap the clip with a rubber hammer while you're pulling out the pin, same with reassembly. A dealer quoted me €2500 and my indy €2200 (although included in their quote were €300 worth of dampeners which aren't required) and I purchased parts from Sonnen for ~€900 + €250 import taxes/duties. So a fun afternoon and lots of savings, I think I'm hooked on DIY
.Thanks for the write up!
09-01-2017, 11:36 AM
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Here is where I am going to buy from. Based on the diagram it only shows 1 per side?
https://www.sonnenporscheoemparts.co...lt-99906704001
https://www.sonnenporscheoemparts.co...lt-99906704001