997 vs 991 design
11-03-2017, 01:34 AM
#91
Rennlist Member
What is a better value given the same miles 30k and price a 07 997 turbo manual, or a 2013 991 C4S PDK sport chrono? I am at a crossroads, I like how the turbo can be upgraded to keep up with modern cars over the years, but I like the 991 look and tech. I'm looking to upgrade from my 997 C2 base model. I started doing trackdays this past summer and really enjoyed it. I would like to take it to the next level.
11-03-2017, 08:46 AM
#92
Rennlist Member
Not sure either one of those is a good choice to take it to the next level track car
11-04-2017, 12:07 AM
#93
Rennlist Member
My issue with 991 in particular...blank buttons on the console. That **** should not happen with a car pushing $220k.
11-05-2017, 08:03 AM
#94
This! I love my Porsches but it drives me nuts that they can’t spend a few cents and have plastic molds made to fill in blanks for the different button configurations. Everything else is done so well and they just hit the brakes in this area. They probably demoted the IMS engineer to interior button filler engineer and we ended up with this.
01-06-2018, 04:40 PM
#95
with me it wasnt the money. ive had two 991 s cars and keep going back to the rawer ,more fun to drive 997.2. ive been fortunate to own a 1977,88,2005,2010,2012,2014 carrera s. yes the 991 is a more advanced car but i keep going back to the 997. just feels more old school and handles better to me
01-06-2018, 07:21 PM
#96
Three Wheelin'
While I have no experience with 991's, based on the posts, I liken this to my '95.5 Audi S6 and my '08 Audi S6. One is a 5 speed MT with a I5 turbo, the other a Dual Clutch Auto 6 speed attached to a V10. While I enjoy the sound and the low end torque of the V10, I was very disappointed that there was no way to order it with an MT. Had that been the case, it would have been a closer comparison, but as with the previous poster, there is something about the 23 year old MT car that draws me to it more than the 10 year old car.
I feel more connected to it, more in control. Even with the paddle shifters, using the manual gearbox makes me feel more in charge. I can't explain it exactly but it's definitely different driving one versus the other. As far as tech differences, those are pretty major over the 13 year gap, but I don't drive my cars to surf the net or for it to wire itself to my brain, I want to be connected to it in a more physical way.
When I looked for my 911, one of the key pieces was a manual transmission (as well as turbo and Mezger engine). If I had had the money I probably would have looked at a GT series car, but that was well beyond my reach. The 997.1 is the first used car I have purchased and when I buy them I keep them until the end of their lives (my '90 Audi Coupe Quattro had 335K miles on it before I retired her) so when I make a purchase I make it carefully and consider the driveablity more than anything else. I have to say that I am very happy with the 997 and looking forward to many years of enjoyment to come.
If shifting gears isn't a priority, then that would remove one of the major items I would be checking off my list personally and may make the tech offered by the 991 something that pulls you in that direction. However there are many other reasons the 997 had achieved such notoriety in my search for a 911, and even if I wasn't partial to an MT car, this car is one of the last mechanical 911's with the ECU taking over much more functionality in the 991, one more "disconnect" (in my opinion) of driver to car.
Ed
I feel more connected to it, more in control. Even with the paddle shifters, using the manual gearbox makes me feel more in charge. I can't explain it exactly but it's definitely different driving one versus the other. As far as tech differences, those are pretty major over the 13 year gap, but I don't drive my cars to surf the net or for it to wire itself to my brain, I want to be connected to it in a more physical way.
When I looked for my 911, one of the key pieces was a manual transmission (as well as turbo and Mezger engine). If I had had the money I probably would have looked at a GT series car, but that was well beyond my reach. The 997.1 is the first used car I have purchased and when I buy them I keep them until the end of their lives (my '90 Audi Coupe Quattro had 335K miles on it before I retired her) so when I make a purchase I make it carefully and consider the driveablity more than anything else. I have to say that I am very happy with the 997 and looking forward to many years of enjoyment to come.
If shifting gears isn't a priority, then that would remove one of the major items I would be checking off my list personally and may make the tech offered by the 991 something that pulls you in that direction. However there are many other reasons the 997 had achieved such notoriety in my search for a 911, and even if I wasn't partial to an MT car, this car is one of the last mechanical 911's with the ECU taking over much more functionality in the 991, one more "disconnect" (in my opinion) of driver to car.
Ed
01-07-2018, 07:48 PM
#97
I've had 996, 997 Targa, 997 tt, R8 v8, R8 v10plus, 991 tts and now I am back to a 997.1 tt. I have run the gambit and this is the car that I enjoy driving the best. If I was DD a turbo as my only car I would have kept the 991 tts. It rides much better and is really fast but lacks the driving engagement that I enjoy with my 997 tt. Since it is not my daily driver or my only car I choose to drive what I truly enjoy. If you have any specific questions please ask. Cheers
01-19-2018, 11:02 PM
#99
Instructor
Originally Posted by changster123
I love the fact the 997.2 TurboS has a ton of the benefits of the 991 TS but in the 997 package. It's a fantastic car.
01-20-2018, 06:38 PM
#100
Had a 997.2TTS and I preferred both the exterior and interior styling of the 997 to the 991TTS, for many of the reasons already mentioned earlier. That said, do yourself a favor and DON'T test drive the 991TTS, because if refinement coupled with blistering speed is your thing, it'll be hard to pass up!
