FORGED WHEEL QUESTION: WHAT WOULD YOU PAY
#1
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
FORGED WHEEL QUESTION: WHAT WOULD YOU PAY
We are finally getting into the full forged wheel business as far as selling them.
We want some feedback on a wheel price that you would feel would make you finally pull the trigger on a set for 19" or 20"....
We want to offer something that will be light weight, forged and something that would shatter the market as far as price is concerned.
Your feedback would be greatly appreciated but we only ask that you keep things realistic, so please don't ask for a $2,000 price on a set of fully forged wheels here.
Thanks again in advance for your replies.
We want some feedback on a wheel price that you would feel would make you finally pull the trigger on a set for 19" or 20"....
We want to offer something that will be light weight, forged and something that would shatter the market as far as price is concerned.
Your feedback would be greatly appreciated but we only ask that you keep things realistic, so please don't ask for a $2,000 price on a set of fully forged wheels here.
Thanks again in advance for your replies.
#3
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
#4
"Greetings,
First let me introduce myself, I'm Attorney Dic Nanner, and represent the Chimpanzee's under contract with JB and LugNut.
I think it's important for those viewing this post to become more familiar with your wheel company. To include history, current products, sales, turn around times, experience with forged wheels, BBB ratings, etc...
As you're very much aware, RTF has recently been banned from advertising on Rennlist and other sites. I applaud your company for taking an opportunity to find a price point that may lead to future sales; that's capitalism.
However, to say that many are gun-shy reference wheels, would be an understatment...hope you can appreciate and understand. I know the Chimps, JB and LugNut are looking forward to learning more about your company, products and customer service.
Thank You,
Mr. Nanner
#5
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
"Greetings,
First let me introduce myself, I'm Attorney Dic Nanner, and represent the Chimpanzee's under contract with JB and LugNut.
I think it's important for those viewing this post to become more familiar with your wheel company. To include history, current products, sales, turn around times, experience with forged wheels, BBB ratings, etc...
As you're very much aware, RTF has recently been banned from advertising on Rennlist and other sites. I applaud your company for taking an opportunity to find a price point that may lead to future sales; that's capitalism.
However, to say that many are gun-shy reference wheels, would be an understatment...hope you can appreciate and understand. I know the Chimps, JB and LugNut are looking forward to learning more about your company, products and customer service.
Thank You,
Mr. Nanner
Having maintained a successful business all of these years says a lot about who we are and what we do. We don't offer wheels in general for other vehicles such as BMW, Audi, VW etc. as many of our competitors do, this allows us to be more specialized and also inventory more Porsche wheels. Currently we warehouse over 3,000 Porsche wheels so the majority of what we have available is in-stock.
Once again thank you for your input, we respect your words of advise.
#6
That is great, and we understand having been in the Porsche wheel side of the business since 2000 this gives us over 15-years of experience. We certainly understand how difficult it is to make 100% of all customers happy but we have certainly done our best to be as fair in our dealings as possible.
Having maintained a successful business all of these years says a lot about who we are and what we do. We don't offer wheels in general for other vehicles such as BMW, Audi, VW etc. as many of our competitors do, this allows us to be more specialized and also inventory more Porsche wheels. Currently we warehouse over 3,000 Porsche wheels so the majority of what we have available is in-stock.
Once again thank you for your input, we respect your words of advise.
Having maintained a successful business all of these years says a lot about who we are and what we do. We don't offer wheels in general for other vehicles such as BMW, Audi, VW etc. as many of our competitors do, this allows us to be more specialized and also inventory more Porsche wheels. Currently we warehouse over 3,000 Porsche wheels so the majority of what we have available is in-stock.
Once again thank you for your input, we respect your words of advise.
"Hello LugNut, yes this is Mrs. Sweetspot calling from Mr. Nanner's Law Offices...yes fine, thank you. No, the rash has not gone away, but thank you for asking...ahhh no, licking it will not help."
"Sir...Mr. Nanner asked that I let JB and you know, that he's heard back from the folks at Grills-and-Hamics...what's that? Oh yea, right.. I mean Wheel Dynamics who relayed that they've been in business 2000 years and have 15 wheels in stock...and that they are dedicated to 3000 other auto manufacturers to produce the best Porsches possible."
"Mr. Nanner also commented that Wheel Dynamics' Company Spokesman is 100% ligit...yep, the "Gold-Standard." Mr. Nanner, said for the Chimps, you and JB to chill and he'd see ya'll at the club-house in the morning for a nine o'clock tee-time.."
"What's that? Well...no LugNut, I don't have any pictures of nude female Huskies that I can text you. I'm a Christian Lady Sir...oh ok, that's fine... WHAT?!?!? No, I'm not telling you what color thong I'm wearing!!!! Good-Day, Sir"...click!
HOLY CRAP LUGNUT!?!?!?!?!? Easy Boy!!!!
Wheel Dynamics good luck...and look forward to learning much more. Thank you...
Wheel Dynamics good luck...and look forward to learning much more. Thank you...
#7
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
"Hello LugNut, yes this is Mrs. Sweetspot calling from Mr. Nanner's Law Offices...yes fine, thank you. No, the rash has not gone away, but thank you for asking...ahhh no, licking it will not help."
"Sir...Mr. Nanner asked that I let JB and you know, that he's heard back from the folks at Grills-and-Hamics...what's that? Oh yea, right.. I mean Wheel Dynamics who relayed that they've been in business 2000 years and have 15 wheels in stock...and that they are dedicated to 3000 other auto manufacturers to produce the best Porsches possible."
"Mr. Nanner also commented that Wheel Dynamics' Company Spokesman is 100% ligit...yep, the "Gold-Standard." Mr. Nanner, said for the Chimps, you and JB to chill and he'd see ya'll at the club-house in the morning for a nine o'clock tee-time.."
"What's that? Well...no LugNut, I don't have any pictures of nude female Huskies that I can text you. I'm a Christian Lady Sir...oh ok, that's fine... WHAT?!?!? No, I'm not telling you what color thong I'm wearing!!!! Good-Day, Sir"...click!
HOLY CRAP LUGNUT!?!?!?!?!? Easy Boy!!!!
Wheel Dynamics good luck...and look forward to learning much more. Thank you...
Wheel Dynamics good luck...and look forward to learning much more. Thank you...
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#8
Somewhere between $700-$1000 per wheel is about right for a lightweight forged wheel. Any less than that and I'd be suspicious as to how they got the price point so low...any more and you're probably just paying for the name brand (which, admittedly, is important sometimes).
#9
Registered User
Vendors should consider making a track specific wheel...
Worry less about looks, and more about hardiness and price...
There is a untapped market for a less expensive, heavy duty, track wheel for 911 cars, and newer...
Some nice heavy duty spokes, less machining time, and lower price...
Worry less about looks, and more about hardiness and price...
There is a untapped market for a less expensive, heavy duty, track wheel for 911 cars, and newer...
Some nice heavy duty spokes, less machining time, and lower price...
#10
"Sounds like we're going to get along juussst fine... My deepest apologies, but we need to attend to our guest. Hope you can understand mate..."
"However, before I go it would be quite lovely to know what a $1K vs. $1.5K vs. $2K wheel general appearance would be? Admittedly, I have no experience or knowledge with forged wheel manufacturing costs. However, my assumptions are that the more detailed the wheel's design that there's a proportional increase in man/machine hours, influencing costs. I believe it's a good practice to level-set and mange expectations, I'm assuming I get that from my Harvard Graduate Education "87".
"Any thoughts you'd like to share on helping us to level-set?"
Cheers,
"Gonzo"
#11
Rennlist Member
Vendors should consider making a track specific wheel...
Worry less about looks, and more about hardiness and price...
There is a untapped market for a less expensive, heavy duty, track wheel for 911 cars, and newer...
Some nice heavy duty spokes, less machining time, and lower price...
Worry less about looks, and more about hardiness and price...
There is a untapped market for a less expensive, heavy duty, track wheel for 911 cars, and newer...
Some nice heavy duty spokes, less machining time, and lower price...
#12
If the forging is successfully used to make them light then I think you could have a good price point around $1200-$1300. Right now you go with Super Forgiatas or FI-Rs, you could try to undercut that at a point where you have nearly the same weight.
Focusing on light wheels also cuts down on the design variants that customers expect. For really lightweight wheels the expectation will be thin looking spokes either straight or Y. Nobody will ask for visible screws, other 3 part cues, or meshes and whatnot.
Focusing on light wheels also cuts down on the design variants that customers expect. For really lightweight wheels the expectation will be thin looking spokes either straight or Y. Nobody will ask for visible screws, other 3 part cues, or meshes and whatnot.
#13
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
Vendors should consider making a track specific wheel...
Worry less about looks, and more about hardiness and price...
There is a untapped market for a less expensive, heavy duty, track wheel for 911 cars, and newer...
Some nice heavy duty spokes, less machining time, and lower price...
Worry less about looks, and more about hardiness and price...
There is a untapped market for a less expensive, heavy duty, track wheel for 911 cars, and newer...
Some nice heavy duty spokes, less machining time, and lower price...
#14
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
Somewhere between $700-$1000 per wheel is about right for a lightweight forged wheel. Any less than that and I'd be suspicious as to how they got the price point so low...any more and you're probably just paying for the name brand (which, admittedly, is important sometimes).
#15
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
"Sounds like we're going to get along juussst fine... My deepest apologies, but we need to attend to our guest. Hope you can understand mate..."
"However, before I go it would be quite lovely to know what a $1K vs. $1.5K vs. $2K wheel general appearance would be? Admittedly, I have no experience or knowledge with forged wheel manufacturing costs. However, my assumptions are that the more detailed the wheel's design that there's a proportional increase in man/machine hours, influencing costs. I believe it's a good practice to level-set and mange expectations, I'm assuming I get that from my Harvard Graduate Education "87".
"Any thoughts you'd like to share on helping us to level-set?"
Cheers,
"Gonzo"
One of our suppliers is an over-seas supplier so the blanks are brought in and custom cut here, while the others are built here in the USA. The obvious is going to be the price difference (USA built being of a better quality thus more expensive).
We are also considering offering both options out.
Keep you posted sir, we are still debating ourselves, but we also are working to try and get a solid warranty as well...