Notices
997 Turbo Forum 2005-2012
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Switched from H&R to Eibach

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-05-2014, 10:05 AM
  #1  
CincyScott
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
CincyScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 2,377
Received 82 Likes on 58 Posts
Default Switched from H&R to Eibach

Before I start a holy war here, I figured I'd caveat this by saying *this is my experience*

When I bought my car, I noticed that it sat REALLY low. I knew it had H&R springs on it, but it seemed much lower than other cars I'd seen. Upon measuring it, the car was 1.75" lower than a stock car (by my crude measurements) and felt like it was riding on the bump stops. The car wallowed a lot, and I was concerned about breaking an expensive PASM strut.

After talking to Kevin at UMW, I decided to swap in the Eibach springs and swaybars. The car is stiffer now, but not uncomfortably so, even given the crappy OH roads I drive on. Secondarily, it no longer wallows around and feels much more capable on the road.

The swaybar additions definitely flattened out the car in corners, and the car is getting closer to driving like my 993tt did (not quite, lol). I don't know what happened to my H&R springs, or if the car will eventually sag on these springs too. I guess time will tell. What I do know now is that the car is now about .8" lower than stock which is what I was looking for. Hopefully with settling it won't go much more than 1" long term.

I feel like I can drive the car much more aggressively now, and the swap has really paid off for my driving style! Watch this space for the next round of mods that Kevin and I are cooking up... I'm excited!

Gratuitous crappy iphone pic:

Old 08-05-2014, 11:44 AM
  #2  
TT Surgeon
Race Director
 
TT Surgeon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: KC ex pat marooned in NY
Posts: 13,005
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Nice, the eilbach springs won't sag. They also make a euro version that's a little stiffer.
Old 08-06-2014, 05:59 PM
  #3  
CincyScott
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
CincyScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 2,377
Received 82 Likes on 58 Posts
Default

Just a quick update here... I drove the car on Monday and Tuesday to work and it's much more planted than before. The other benefit I didn't know I would get is that the front end is tightened up quite a bit, which was one of my beefs with the car. The steering is now tighter and more responsive.

All in all a good call! I'll post more after a couple months to see where the settling ends up. I think the sways help a ton, and I learned next time to do it as a set and not try to piece meal it together.
Old 08-06-2014, 07:10 PM
  #4  
C2 Turbo
Rennlist Member
 
C2 Turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 9,259
Received 241 Likes on 172 Posts
Default

Car seems to at perfect height and not surprised it handles better too.

Beautiful car, now show us the interior picts where the magic happens

How do you like the PCCB's?
Old 08-06-2014, 07:15 PM
  #5  
Farfelc2s
Burning Brakes
 
Farfelc2s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,199
Likes: 0
Received 29 Likes on 6 Posts
Default EIBACH

I just bought a DSC unit from TPC Racing that modifies the suspension on our 997 TTs.
They say it could only handle better if it had Sway bars. On their site, they sell only Eibach.
Read about this unit on 6Speed in the 997TT section under "modified suspension".
Only good revues, so I had to see for myself.
Old 08-06-2014, 08:22 PM
  #6  
Boeing 717
Registered User
 
Boeing 717's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Not here
Posts: 13,675
Likes: 0
Received 262 Likes on 158 Posts
Default

That's great Scott. So your still running stock dampers? Where did you buy this set of bars and springs??
Old 08-06-2014, 09:53 PM
  #7  
GermanCarSpecialists
Former Vendor
 
GermanCarSpecialists's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 788
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I like Eibachs a lot more than H&Rs. Sagging is one thing, but my biggest concern with H&Rs are they drop the car way too much. This creates toe steer. Suspension travel is also significantly limited. Thats where a lot of complaints come from (wobble, bounce...etc). eibachs are a better choice. OP, good switch
Old 08-06-2014, 10:14 PM
  #8  
moacur
Rennlist Member
 
moacur's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 581
Received 140 Likes on 38 Posts
Default

How many miles on your stock struts?
Old 08-06-2014, 10:56 PM
  #9  
CincyScott
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
CincyScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 2,377
Received 82 Likes on 58 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by C2 Turbo
Car seems to at perfect height and not surprised it handles better too.

Beautiful car, now show us the interior picts where the magic happens

How do you like the PCCB's?
You already know the interior better than anyone! I'll post some pics though

I LOVE the PCCB's. They are now a must have item.
Old 08-06-2014, 11:04 PM
  #10  
CincyScott
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
CincyScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 2,377
Received 82 Likes on 58 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Boeing 717
That's great Scott. So your still running stock dampers? Where did you buy this set of bars and springs??
I'm still running my stock dampers, with about 26k on them.

I bought my kit from Kevin at UMW. We did a bunch of research together to figure out a good setup for me. I'm sure he got tired of me with the 800 questions I ask . He knew how much I struggled with the PSS9's I had on my 996tt. I'm sure coil overs are great for the track, but I could never find a compromise that I liked... Maybe too much adjustability is just that; too much.

I wanted something a little lower, a little stiffer, and a little flatter than stock. I'm not a track guy, so I think this will give me the change I wanted without overthinking the setup too much.
Old 08-06-2014, 11:29 PM
  #11  
sidwin
Pro
 
sidwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 546
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

love the look. we had eibachs on a couple of cars but we always had sagging problems with them. measure your height through the center of the wheel to the fender well today. check it a year and see after it settles does it stay. we went from 1.2 inch drop to 1.5 after a year.
Old 08-06-2014, 11:36 PM
  #12  
CincyScott
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
CincyScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 2,377
Received 82 Likes on 58 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by sidwin
love the look. we had eibachs on a couple of cars but we always had sagging problems with them. measure your height through the center of the wheel to the fender well today. check it a year and see after it settles does it stay. we went from 1.2 inch drop to 1.5 after a year.
Maybe they all sag in time. I measured the drop and I'm at less than 1" right now. If it goes to 1.5" I'm gonna be mad
Old 08-07-2014, 04:59 PM
  #13  
phillipj
Drifting
 
phillipj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Pasadena CA
Posts: 2,253
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

I have the H & R springs and have had no issues with them.. I don't think they are too low and the car handles awesome with them. I hope that stays that way! Now you've got me "sag" paranoid!
Old 08-07-2014, 06:24 PM
  #14  
CincyScott
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
CincyScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 2,377
Received 82 Likes on 58 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by phillipj
I have the H & R springs and have had no issues with them.. I don't think they are too low and the car handles awesome with them. I hope that stays that way! Now you've got me "sag" paranoid!
No need for paranoia, I'm sure not everyone has the problem I did or they wouldn't sell so many. My body has sagged too with time, I'm thinking it's just a rule of nature for all things
Old 08-08-2014, 03:50 PM
  #15  
phillipj
Drifting
 
phillipj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Pasadena CA
Posts: 2,253
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

LOL!



Quick Reply: Switched from H&R to Eibach



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 05:25 PM.