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Old 05-01-2014, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
More like a 120k car...the 89 slant.
Yes, can't dwell on the past, the one car I'd buy back in a second would be my original blue 07 997tt, never should've sold her.
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I was at my tech last week and there was an 964 Turbo there. Not sure what year. It was white with a black interior and seemed very clean.. I looked at the interior and it looked new! I looked at the odometer and it had 5100 miles.!!. The car was perfect.. I inquired about to see if the owner was interested in selling.. Never heard back..

Apparently it had been stored for quite some time. Properly...


I wonder how much that car would go for..
Old 05-01-2014, 11:35 PM
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My car was recently offered at 78, 4 guys came to look, two flew in!
Nobody tried to talk me down, the last guy offered 80k. After I got the bitch all detailed, it looked freaking good, runs like a Swiss watch, everything works, 555hp with no negatives, no droning.......wtf would I replace it with, a 991?? A Macan?
My 930 is too valuable to drive, multiple offers, going to Sloan.
I have to have something I can drive and have fun in, not just commute like a drone or put on a pedestal until a nice Saturday morning cc comes around?
Should've kept my old one, but it's gone
I agree with Dennis, the most desired 997tt will be the 09 bc of the PCM.
In 15 yrs it will be the 964 3.6!
Old 05-02-2014, 09:49 AM
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Depends entirely on the mileage, imho. 50k+ miles - they are quite cheap.
Old 05-02-2014, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
My car was recently offered at 78, 4 guys came to look, two flew in!
Nobody tried to talk me down, the last guy offered 80k. After I got the bitch all detailed, it looked freaking good, runs like a Swiss watch, everything works, 555hp with no negatives, no droning.......wtf would I replace it with, a 991?? A Macan?
My 930 is too valuable to drive, multiple offers, going to Sloan.
I have to have something I can drive and have fun in, not just commute like a drone or put on a pedestal until a nice Saturday morning cc comes around?
Should've kept my old one, but it's gone
I agree with Dennis, the most desired 997tt will be the 09 bc of the PCM.
In 15 yrs it will be the 964 3.6!
1. What's the difference between the old one and the new one?
2. How about selling 997T, buy GT3RS or GT2 (significantly more special in all kind of ways) and drive CaymanS on a daily basis?

3. In 15yrs it will be 964 3.6 only if you do not drive it. If you daily drive your 997T, like I do, it will be worth 20k max, because it will have 100-150k mileage, which is OK, as I've seen cars with 200k mileage (albeit 996T) but noone would buy them. THEN you can really abuse them though, as they are sunk cost and market value is almost zero! :-)
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Originally Posted by phillipj
I was at my tech last week and there was an 964 Turbo there. Not sure what year. It was white with a black interior and seemed very clean.. I looked at the interior and it looked new! I looked at the odometer and it had 5100 miles.!!. The car was perfect.. I inquired about to see if the owner was interested in selling.. Never heard back..

Apparently it had been stored for quite some time. Properly...


I wonder how much that car would go for..
I've seen a black 964 Turbo. It looks fantastic outside and very used inside (also very old inside, but that is good imho, very authentic).

I would not mind owning such a car...IF I were rich. Because otherwise, even with the sentimental value of 964, there is no point switching from manual 997.1 to 964, as 997.1 is so much better/faster car.

964T would be an option for me IF I had, say, 997.2GT3 as well in my garage, and a daily driver sportscar as well, say CaymanS or Audi TTRS. 964T is a collectable, not a dd, imho, unless you are loaded and enthusiast enough not to care about mileage.
Old 05-02-2014, 10:02 AM
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My old one I bought brand new, spec'd from the factory, etc. long gone.
I prefer a dd car, a gt3rs daily would be idiotic, and a cayman s is more of an entry level car, not for me, sorry.
I was referring to a 09, kept very low mile in comparing it to the current 3.6 market. I don't think any 997tt will ever be a 20k car, unless it's an abused pos.
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Originally Posted by roybotnik
...The 996 turbos are still going for 40-50k and are far less desirable IMO.
That's the ASKING price. Do you see them being sold? I've been watching low mileage 996 RUFs with 600+hp sitting on the lot not being sold, not to mention cheaper 996Turbos. ASKING price means nothing, what would you pay for 996T, would you be prepared to buy one RIGHT NOW?
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Originally Posted by Skullbussa
I have about $70k that I am willing to spend on a toy and a 911 Turbo is essentially my dream car. Problem is, I typically get sick of my toys after a year or two. Is the 997.1 Turbo a candidate for someone like me who:

-Might want to sell the car after 1-2 years without taking a huge depreciation hit?
-Wants to cap spending at $70k? Seems to limit me to 2007-2008 cars with 40k+ miles which seems like a lot.
-Wants a tactile performance car that is just as much about emotion as it is fast Nurburgring lap times?
-Wants to be able to DRIVE THE CAR without constantly worrying about putting on miles/depreciation.

My last car was an '09 GT-R that I loved but felt that it was getting long-in-the-tooth in terms of styling. The 997 Turbos are ageless to me.

If this is NOT the car for me, I would love to hear suggestions. Thanks fellas!
You are high on acceleration and nominal power or handling, feel, useful power and sound?
If the later four, reconsider 997T. Check out 997.2GT3 or 997GT2.

BTW, do you drive Nürburgring? If not - what's the point mentioning Ring times?

"-Wants to be able to DRIVE THE CAR without constantly worrying about putting on miles/depreciation." - In that case get an E46 M3 or Z4M, you can wring them out to your heart's content and they last past 150k miles no problem!
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Originally Posted by phillipj
I bought my my car 4 years ago..I bought it with 37k miles. It was a CPO car. I have 68 k now and still have the original clutch (with a tune.)

Ian is correct though on all counts.

A car with 40k may need a clutch. You can probably find one that has already had it done..And has good tires and a recent brake job..

If it makes you more comfortable my TT is the most trouble free, reliable Porsche I have ever had. I have had no substantial mechanical repairs of any kind.

I drive my car almost everyday and drive it hard..

Look around and find what you want. Make sure you get the Sport Chrono and the sport seats and an interesting interior. Don't be afraid of a higher mileage TT if it has been well kept. They age very well..

Mine is a gem and I'm not parting with it anytime soon..

Good luck with your search! You will not regret getting a TT!
Mine is tuned and had the whole clutch assembly changed at 60k km. The brake disks + pads had to be changed at 80k km. Tire life depends on your right foot and the alignment, have the alignment done as soon as you buy a car!
Old 05-02-2014, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by phillipj
... Don't be afraid of a higher mileage TT if it has been well kept. They age very well..
True, just remember that noone will buy a car with very high mileage! IMHO, of course. I, personally, would not buy a 997T with, say, 100k miles on the clock. Already 100k kilometers is no-no for me, at least if the brake disks+pads and clutch were not changed recently!
Old 05-02-2014, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by atcbi5
I thought 07 are out of warranty? 50k miles or 48 months. It's 2014 guys moot point. How about a 993 TT with 5k miles? It ain't got no warranty, same with a 997TT. I would be afraid to buy a low mileage 07 turbo. Things will break like all of the 07's that have been running for a while. Yes try to get a warranty for it, you will be paying thru the nose. Ridiculous some of the stuff written on this forum.
993T are significantly more expensive to service. You have to service them more often and it costs more as well, at least that is what I've read and also checked service prices of official Porsche service centers.
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Originally Posted by Skullbussa
I appreciate everyone's input.

Every car I buy is going to depreciate, my goal is to find a fun, exciting, yet reliable car to drive that will have the least amount of depreciation and maintenance hassle possible over the course of 1-2 years. Key word "possible".
I tell you, look into good ole BMWs. They are not as powerful as 997T, but they are easier to live with and you can abuse them like there is no tomorrow, and it makes more fun, because you do not have to worry about "what ifs" and costly repairs. You come from GTR, which weighs A LOT, have you tried lighter cars? I tell you, try 997.1/.2 GT3 (.1 has no PSM, be careful).
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Originally Posted by TT Gasman
Extended warranties are a scam IMO, betting on having a major breakdown in 2 years.
+100

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Old 05-02-2014, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
My old one I bought brand new, spec'd from the factory, etc. long gone.
I prefer a dd car, a gt3rs daily would be idiotic, and a cayman s is more of an entry level car, not for me, sorry.
I was referring to a 09, kept very low mile in comparing it to the current 3.6 market. I don't think any 997tt will ever be a 20k car, unless it's an abused pos.
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GT3RS as dd...probably a bit too much, I agree. BUT as a second car, to drive WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE (not necessarily only on weekends, always minding the mileage etc) it would be great! BUT, it would require a second car, to drive on the days when you want to just drone in quietness, a car, which, I believe, all owners of Porsche do have.

CaymanS (imho, the previous 320hp version with hydraulics) is amazing, especially when you can wring it out to the max in more gears than 997T would ever see (without going way, way, way above legal limit). I do not know where you live and what roads you have, but when I want to go all-out I take my manual RWD 265ps Z4 3.0Si coupe (Audi A1 2.0T accelerates faster in straight line!) and take a spin in the hairpins nearby. 997T is too heavy and too fast for the corners, whenever I do take it out on drives like this I even wish it had PDK. O_O

TT (Chris, if I may), tell me honestly, how much would you pay for 100k miles, serviced, manual 997 Turbo? What you think is one thing, what you do is totally another.
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