Buy the newest Porsche you can afford-but I want a turbo
#1
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Buy the newest Porsche you can afford-but I want a turbo
I am in the market for a 2009 Carrera S. I was at the dealer looking at one of their cars and I noticed they have a 2007 Turbo.
I didn't get a chance to drive either car as the temperature was seven degrees. I was worried about driving them on summer tires.
Anyway the saying is buy the newest Porsche you can afford, but looking at the turbo really got my blood boiling.
A three old NA versus a six year old turbo? I know maintenance records and a ppi are a must.
Should I stay away from the turbo even its a one owner with all records? I know on the air cooled turbos the driver had to drive it properly to burn off moisture and also cool down correctly.
What's the life span of the turbos anyway?
Howard
1997 911
I didn't get a chance to drive either car as the temperature was seven degrees. I was worried about driving them on summer tires.
Anyway the saying is buy the newest Porsche you can afford, but looking at the turbo really got my blood boiling.
A three old NA versus a six year old turbo? I know maintenance records and a ppi are a must.
Should I stay away from the turbo even its a one owner with all records? I know on the air cooled turbos the driver had to drive it properly to burn off moisture and also cool down correctly.
What's the life span of the turbos anyway?
Howard
1997 911
#2
Registered User
Drive the turbo you WILL buy it. The engines are strong there is no historical evidence of turbo problems.
A few issues but overall the car is pretty reliable. There are guys here who have had NA cars and then bought a turbo I think they will say the same.
A few issues but overall the car is pretty reliable. There are guys here who have had NA cars and then bought a turbo I think they will say the same.
#4
Burning Brakes
night and day difference. Do not test drive the turbo unless you are ready to write a check ......Ask me how I know this
Buy CPO if you are worried about repairs. otherwise, the sooner stock turbos go the sooner the upgrades lol
Buy CPO if you are worried about repairs. otherwise, the sooner stock turbos go the sooner the upgrades lol
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Mine is at 71K miles, so one data point at least for life span of the turbos.
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I had an 09 Carerra and moved down to an 08 turbo. You'll miss the updated interior and PCM, but the power just doesnt compare from an S to a turbo. Its like a kick in the *** everytime the turbo kicks in.
#10
I vote for the turbo!
Boost is very very addictive!
Handling, braking, power , looks, ride, car has it all. Do wish had a bit more electronic upgrades though . Not even an ipod input jack. They could at least have put that in there.
Boost is very very addictive!
Handling, braking, power , looks, ride, car has it all. Do wish had a bit more electronic upgrades though . Not even an ipod input jack. They could at least have put that in there.
#11
Agent Orange
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DO NOT test drive a turbo unless you are ready to buy one. Because you won't sleep at night until it's in your garage.
And yes, I agree that the 10 year-old PCM is ridiculous, but whoever uses it anyway? In the past 9 months/7,000 miles I've listened to music only a handful of times. You can send your PCM to Becker Auto Sound and they'll install an Aux input for $100. Just FYI.
And yes, I agree that the 10 year-old PCM is ridiculous, but whoever uses it anyway? In the past 9 months/7,000 miles I've listened to music only a handful of times. You can send your PCM to Becker Auto Sound and they'll install an Aux input for $100. Just FYI.
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DO NOT test drive a turbo unless you are ready to buy one. Because you won't sleep at night until it's in your garage. And yes, I agree that the 10 year-old PCM is ridiculous, but whoever uses it anyway? In the past 9 months/7,000 miles I've listened to music only a handful of times. You can send your PCM to Becker Auto Sound and they'll install an Aux input for $100. Just FYI.
As for the turbo? I went from carrera to turbo and belive me you wont mind the extra 3 years. Besides its the same body depreciation will be less on the turbo as well.
#13
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If the PCM is a big deal, the touch screen in the '09 is pretty nice. And the Bluetooth phone interface works amazingly well in the Cabriolets.
I don't track, streets only, daily driver, no interest in exceeding 85mph. I have absolutely no justification for having the turbo. But when I drive it, I constantly wait in anticipation every single time for the TTs to kick in and feel the boost slamming me in the back. "Boost is addictive" is not an exaggeration, it is a fact.
I don't track, streets only, daily driver, no interest in exceeding 85mph. I have absolutely no justification for having the turbo. But when I drive it, I constantly wait in anticipation every single time for the TTs to kick in and feel the boost slamming me in the back. "Boost is addictive" is not an exaggeration, it is a fact.
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Agree with the other comments here.. I came from a 997C2S and never looked back..
There's actualy a pump that will circulate the coolant to cool the turbos after the ignition is off. Found this out in a cool tech manual I got from Rennlist doc library.
Agree with the other comments here.. I came from a 997C2S and never looked back..
Cool down not an issue on the water cooled. Can't remember how they did it, but I think it may even be covered in the manual. Most of us drive the last few miles home in a residential district, so that's cool down there.
Mine is at 71K miles, so one data point at least for life span of the turbos.
Mine is at 71K miles, so one data point at least for life span of the turbos.
There's actualy a pump that will circulate the coolant to cool the turbos after the ignition is off. Found this out in a cool tech manual I got from Rennlist doc library.