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Old 06-19-2013, 12:23 AM
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I am looking into purchasing a '07 997 turbo. It comes with the ceramic brake set up. I don't plan to track the car, but I do plan to drive it year round, which includes our great Canadian winter.

I recall reading somewhere that ceramic brakes are very fragile and using them in a cold environment is not recommended. Any truth to this? I am hoping someone can help clarify.
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Originally Posted by 07_RS4
I am looking into purchasing a '07 997 turbo. It comes with the ceramic brake set up. I don't plan to track the car, but I do plan to drive it year round, which includes our great Canadian winter.

I recall reading somewhere that ceramic brakes are very fragile and using them in a cold environment is not recommended. Any truth to this? I am hoping someone can help clarify.
Best of luck with the purchase.

I have PCCB on my 07TT and it was a daily driver until 5 months ago, so 6 winters in Chicago. I have never heard of it being fragile in winter/snow. The stock wheels for sure pack up with snow (fyi) but I have never had any issues, and the dealer/service guy who is a good friend and knowledgable never said a thing. I do think that you get more snow than we do, but I don't think that should be an issue.

You have to be more careful in wheel removal and that kind of stuff and the rotors are expensive if you race the car, but otherwise, these are pretty bullet-proof. I have a combined of around 100K miles on PCCB and very happy.
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Originally Posted by Igooz
Best of luck with the purchase.

I have PCCB on my 07TT and it was a daily driver until 5 months ago, so 6 winters in Chicago. I have never heard of it being fragile in winter/snow. The stock wheels for sure pack up with snow (fyi) but I have never had any issues, and the dealer/service guy who is a good friend and knowledgable never said a thing. I do think that you get more snow than we do, but I don't think that should be an issue.

You have to be more careful in wheel removal and that kind of stuff and the rotors are expensive if you race the car, but otherwise, these are pretty bullet-proof. I have a combined of around 100K miles on PCCB and very happy.
Appreciate your input. This is definitely good news.

100k miles on your brakes? Original set up? Is that a typo?
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I'll chime in. No typo. They last a long time. No break dust, the odd bit of noise, but a great braking system. And... Groovy yellow calipers.
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07_RS4, sorry for the confusion. 100k combined PCCB mileage on 3 cars. 40k mi +/- on this car and still on the original pads, albeit never tracked. 60k miles on 2 other pcars. I replaced front pads once on a 6GT2 at 20k miles and I tracked that car around 10+/- times prior to brake pad change.

You need to make sure that PPI is good on the rotors since that is a big expense item. Otherwise they are great brakes. The early days of PCCB on the 996 I remember concerns but that's all...
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ive got 57k miles on my ccb's, the rotors are at 99% life. virtually no wear WHATSOEVER. i had a pic of the took we used to measure the thickness, and it's the exact same as a brand new rotor.

the trick to keeping your rotors lasting forever is to change your pads EARLY. around 50-60% is when you want to replace pads.
the reason you want to do this is becaue at a certain point, the pad loses its ability to transfer heat properly, and damages the rotor.

FYI front and rear pads are about $500 from ECS tuning !!
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I have PCCB on all of my P cars..I drive the Cayenne turbo S during the winter on unplowed surfaces and it will stop on a dime, the only issue with PCCB is when you wash the car or at the start of a rain they wil not bite till you put some heat in them and that could be scary if you are not prepared for it
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997 PCCB are a "forever" street rotor .
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Originally Posted by steve k ny
ive got 57k miles on my ccb's, the rotors are at 99% life. virtually no wear WHATSOEVER. i had a pic of the took we used to measure the thickness, and it's the exact same as a brand new rotor.

the trick to keeping your rotors lasting forever is to change your pads EARLY. around 50-60% is when you want to replace pads.
the reason you want to do this is becaue at a certain point, the pad loses its ability to transfer heat properly, and damages the rotor.

FYI front and rear pads are about $500 from ECS tuning !!
Agree with the pad change....
500$, are those aftermarket or oem?
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OEM front and rear. maybe it was $550. if i recall the front was 329, rear 279
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My '07 squeaked and I mean really made noise. Hot or cold and you could drive all day and not a sound then out of no where the loud squeaking occurred. I was under warranty but the dealer said there was nothing wrong with them and could not "fix" them. But if yours on the car you are purchasing do not after a long test drive then go for it. rrm
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^ before installing new pads you want to shave/trim down the edges a bit. thats what causes squeekage.
thats what some dealers in NY do.
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34k mi. on mine. No dust, no measurable wear. I think the 100k mile life estimate is accurate. Occasionally squeak when cold but no big deal.
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You'll be fine. Enjoy the no dust -



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