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Old 06-05-2011, 07:50 AM
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Default Ceramic Brakes

I found a TT that I may want to buy. It has the ceramic brakes option
How do these compare for everyday use?
How long do they last compared to the standard brakes?
And what should I expect the replacement cost will be compared to standard brakes?

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Old 06-05-2011, 09:03 AM
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Brake pads for the PCCB cost about 60% more compared to cars with steel rotors. Rotors for the PCCB cost SIGNIFICANTLY more compared to OEM steel.

Look on websites like Suncoast Porsche, and you can see parts costs.

I'd guess PCCB rotors last over 100,000 miles. And minimal brake dust!

If and when you'd need to replace the rotors, you could always switch to steel, and save $$$$.

Links to help you:

http://www.suncoastparts.com/categor...TCERAMICS.html

http://www.suncoastparts.com/categor...rakeparts.html

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Old 06-05-2011, 09:29 AM
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It is all relative to you and the previous owners use. We had a local PCA member aggressively track his new TT with PCCB for three days and then noticed a change at the rear of his car. Turns out the PSM was kicking in so much that it toasted the rear brakes. Get some costs up front and get a good professional review of the brakes in their current state. Good luck.
Old 06-05-2011, 10:34 AM
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There is a lot of myth here. On the street they are eye candy. On the track they work great but are expensive to maintain.
Old 06-05-2011, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by carcommander
There is a lot of myth here. On the street they are eye candy. On the track they work great but are expensive to maintain.
The entire car's frickin' eye candy. PCCBs are icing on the candy.

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Sorry for the hijack, but since we're on the topic...
Does anyone make aftermarket ceramics for the TT?
Old 06-06-2011, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Macster
The entire car's frickin' eye candy. PCCBs are icing on the candy.

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Yes it is, I have them on my 599 and they look and work great.
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If youre not going to track the PCCBs are a nice option. Alot less weight at each corner compared to steel. There was an issue with the 996 GT3 PCCBs which were Gen I. Porsche didnt really program the computer well to help with the PCCBs. So the Anti-Locks would pulse them under breaking and that chewed up the rotors.
Now I think they are on generation III or VI. So alot of the issues that came up in the first generation are somewhat sovled. I havent see a whole lot "MY ROTORS ARE SHREDDED!!" lately.
Porsche I think is coming up with replacement packages for maintenance so people dont have to pay $8000 a rotor.
I think its a nice option that you dont have to pay much for on a resale and like some one said, when the rotors needed changing just go to steel.
The OTHER Option is you can take off the Rotors now and save them for resale.
But overall I like having them on my 911's they feel nice in spirited driving and the occasional track day. And like I said its a nice item for resale.
Go with it, enjoy them and the little or no brake dust.
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Originally Posted by carcommander
Yes it is, I have them on my 599 and they look and work great.
Just a '599'? Couldn't afford the '599XX' eh?

Just kidding.

Post a pic you lucky so and so you. I love the 599. Everyone raves about the rear mid-engine cars but I like the front mid-engine cars better. More practical and yet they still deliver exceptional performance and ride, so I've read. I've never had a chance to find out directly.

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I am afraid I did not have the option of buying a 599XX. Besides there has to be a limit to all this car insanity. I had an F430 for 4 years and loved it so wanted to try something different. The 599 is sorta like a 911 turbo in approach.
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Originally Posted by carcommander
I am afraid I did not have the option of buying a 599XX. Besides there has to be a limit to all this car insanity. I had an F430 for 4 years and loved it so wanted to try something different. The 599 is sorta like a 911 turbo in approach.

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That is one fine looking automobile.

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Hi there, am a new user here.

I have a 07 997 Turbo with PCCB and have done 27000 kms. Probably 1000kms on race track. My rotors are now close to having to be replaced and there are spots of delimitation already. They are expensive to replace and even from suncoast it's going to cost USD15k for a set of 4 *faint*

They work really well though and look cool with the yellow calipers

I've been told that can't change to steel rotors without changing the whole brake assembly which is pricey itself. Do you guys know if this is correct?
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After having 3 sets of ceramics on three different cars there is no way I'm going back. Cheap for the joy of toe pressure causing carnival ride g forces. The first two cars were perfect, third is giving me trouble with noise and sticking. 11 pounds in your passenger sear is meaningless. 11 pounds unsprung weight means a lot. or so they say...myth...physics...
They work great in sub zero temps, look cool, but not predictable when wet or dirty.



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