997tt sparkplug DIY - aka torture yourself
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This is not an easy job. Personally, I would not recommend doing this even if you are pretty handy. It is very tedious and requires contorting your hands into some very confining spaces. I lost half a fingernail and the skin off of 2 knuckles. The back of my hands look like I was digging thru barbed wire. You cannot really wear gloves for the intricate work that is involved. You will need male and female torx bits, universal 1/4" and 3/8" adapters, long 3/8" extensions, a long 3/8" wobble extension, ball ended and regular ended allen keys and sockets in 4mm and 5mm, a 10mm and 5/16" combination end wrenches.That being said:
1)jack up rear of car and remove wheels. Remove rear wheel liners. Remove tail lamps. Remove rear bumper.
2)remove intercoolers. Bend up the heat shields out of the way.
3)remove heat shield - the following is for the passenger side plugs. The forward torx bolt can be removed with a 5/16" combo wrench working from underneath
4)coil packs are visible now. Push the rubber boots up to allow the clip to be undone, then you can unbolt the coilpack and remove it. The rear 2 spark plugs can be removed now with long extensions. I used a wobble extension on the spark plug socket.
5)the forward plug looks impossible to get to. To R&R without removing the turbo requires - unbolting and moving the 2 oil lines and 2 coolant lines to the turbo. Push these out of the way best you can. You now have to unbolt the 3x 5mm allen bolts holding the VTG controller from the turbo. You can pop-off the actuator arm to ease it some, but this part really sucks. The task requires some real contortion. Try to break the bolts first with a 5mm allen key socket or allen key, then go to the ball ended key. If you can do this, you can probably jerk-off a hamster blindfolded. Loosen the compressor inlet duct to help remove the VTG unit, then you can get to the coilpack and spark plug. Whew!
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6)the driver's side is no less difficult. The rear plug is relatively easy. The middle one requires the removal of the cooling lines to the turbo and the VTG unit - again, a task only for the "Hamster Whisperer"
7)the forward plug is pretty tricky too. You have to remove the diverter valve then loosen the compressor inlet duct. Removing the diverter give you just enough room to wriggle the coil pack out and to change the plug.
My car has 16k miles on it, and I had the car pumped to stage 2 at 2k miles and 700 kit at 8k miles. I hadn't noticed any issues with the car until recently. I had not driven it more than once a week, and noticed a slight surging of the throttle when going from 1st to second under very light throttle. The car seemed to want to buck and I just figured I was not being deft enough on the clutch. After a long drive up to Dallas though the car started to stumble lightly at around 3-4k rpm under mild throttle. It was a very slight hesitation and I thought that I might have gotten some bad fuel. Mixing with 104 octane seemed to help but did not eliminate the problem. Running a bottle of Techron also just about eliminated it, but I still knew something was off. I did not get any CEL for misfire nor did any codes pop up on the scantool. The issue was mild enough that I probably could not reproduce it for a service tech.
Reading up on the 996tt boards the symptoms seemed to match what others had noticed. Sharky's post on 6speed made me start to wonder if the plugs could be the issue. So, I decided to plunge into the job. I originally was going to go back with the stock Beru/Bosch plugs, but the dealership and local wholesalers did not have them in stock. This pushed me to doing the Denso double platinums in 1 stage colder than stock. These are the PK20PR-P8 plugs which wholesale at less than $6 per plug. Looking at the tips, you notice that the insulator is shorter than stock, and the electrode is a fine tip similar to stock. My old plugs were showing some wear, with about 8mm gap in the plugs. Stock recommendation is about 7mm so there was definitely compromise there.
Happily after this tedious task, the car is running noticeably smoother than before. There is no more surging or hesitation, and my butt dyno thinks the car found a good 20-30hp. I hope that the Densos last another 15k miles or so, because this job made me feel like this guy:
1)jack up rear of car and remove wheels. Remove rear wheel liners. Remove tail lamps. Remove rear bumper.
2)remove intercoolers. Bend up the heat shields out of the way.
3)remove heat shield - the following is for the passenger side plugs. The forward torx bolt can be removed with a 5/16" combo wrench working from underneath
4)coil packs are visible now. Push the rubber boots up to allow the clip to be undone, then you can unbolt the coilpack and remove it. The rear 2 spark plugs can be removed now with long extensions. I used a wobble extension on the spark plug socket.
5)the forward plug looks impossible to get to. To R&R without removing the turbo requires - unbolting and moving the 2 oil lines and 2 coolant lines to the turbo. Push these out of the way best you can. You now have to unbolt the 3x 5mm allen bolts holding the VTG controller from the turbo. You can pop-off the actuator arm to ease it some, but this part really sucks. The task requires some real contortion. Try to break the bolts first with a 5mm allen key socket or allen key, then go to the ball ended key. If you can do this, you can probably jerk-off a hamster blindfolded. Loosen the compressor inlet duct to help remove the VTG unit, then you can get to the coilpack and spark plug. Whew!
take a break:
6)the driver's side is no less difficult. The rear plug is relatively easy. The middle one requires the removal of the cooling lines to the turbo and the VTG unit - again, a task only for the "Hamster Whisperer"
7)the forward plug is pretty tricky too. You have to remove the diverter valve then loosen the compressor inlet duct. Removing the diverter give you just enough room to wriggle the coil pack out and to change the plug.
My car has 16k miles on it, and I had the car pumped to stage 2 at 2k miles and 700 kit at 8k miles. I hadn't noticed any issues with the car until recently. I had not driven it more than once a week, and noticed a slight surging of the throttle when going from 1st to second under very light throttle. The car seemed to want to buck and I just figured I was not being deft enough on the clutch. After a long drive up to Dallas though the car started to stumble lightly at around 3-4k rpm under mild throttle. It was a very slight hesitation and I thought that I might have gotten some bad fuel. Mixing with 104 octane seemed to help but did not eliminate the problem. Running a bottle of Techron also just about eliminated it, but I still knew something was off. I did not get any CEL for misfire nor did any codes pop up on the scantool. The issue was mild enough that I probably could not reproduce it for a service tech.
Reading up on the 996tt boards the symptoms seemed to match what others had noticed. Sharky's post on 6speed made me start to wonder if the plugs could be the issue. So, I decided to plunge into the job. I originally was going to go back with the stock Beru/Bosch plugs, but the dealership and local wholesalers did not have them in stock. This pushed me to doing the Denso double platinums in 1 stage colder than stock. These are the PK20PR-P8 plugs which wholesale at less than $6 per plug. Looking at the tips, you notice that the insulator is shorter than stock, and the electrode is a fine tip similar to stock. My old plugs were showing some wear, with about 8mm gap in the plugs. Stock recommendation is about 7mm so there was definitely compromise there.
Happily after this tedious task, the car is running noticeably smoother than before. There is no more surging or hesitation, and my butt dyno thinks the car found a good 20-30hp. I hope that the Densos last another 15k miles or so, because this job made me feel like this guy:
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WOW, incredible DIY post although I think this is one that I will not try !!!
Kudos to you.
BTW, the Hillary/Alien and Humping Hamster gifs also get an A+.
Kudos to you.
BTW, the Hillary/Alien and Humping Hamster gifs also get an A+.
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wow and I thought plugs on my 993tt were a pain...
Why are cars built like this now - so that common maintenance items are difficult? I guess it's still better than a F car that requires the engine to be out for everything.
Why are cars built like this now - so that common maintenance items are difficult? I guess it's still better than a F car that requires the engine to be out for everything.
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Just out of curiosity, was there a Denso Iridium plug available?
I've never had an issue with the Iridiums, apart from being about $20 each.
I've never had an issue with the Iridiums, apart from being about $20 each.
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Very impressed! I watch our techs changing plugs on the lift and see how difficult it is. You definately take the cake on this DIY project. You even managed to take pictures in those tight spots as well - great job!
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The question of plug changing came up on the 997 forum recently as well and I came to the conclusion that even with skills and the tools, I would let my friendly neighborhood Porsche technician do this!
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Gene, great write up - thanks for taking the time to document
The 7GT2 maintenance specifies plug change at 12K miles..... Mine 12 months old last wed and whilst at 6.5K not really due a service and has had fresh oil in the last 3k miles, I am treating it to an intermediate service + plug change. The intermediate service seems to be oil + filter then just looking at everything else ! I enquired about the plug change remembering what a b!tch of a job it is on 993tts but my OPC service guy seems to think it is a lot easier of these 7s ?
The price seems to reflect about 2.5hours labour - is this about right ? Do you think there are any special tools they use to make it easier ?
The 7GT2 maintenance specifies plug change at 12K miles..... Mine 12 months old last wed and whilst at 6.5K not really due a service and has had fresh oil in the last 3k miles, I am treating it to an intermediate service + plug change. The intermediate service seems to be oil + filter then just looking at everything else ! I enquired about the plug change remembering what a b!tch of a job it is on 993tts but my OPC service guy seems to think it is a lot easier of these 7s ?
The price seems to reflect about 2.5hours labour - is this about right ? Do you think there are any special tools they use to make it easier ?