DSG, When is it available?
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DSG (double clutch):
http://www.audi.com/audi/com/en1/new...d_details.html
CambioCorsa (Maserati/Ferrari....single clutch):
Cambiocorsa transmission with electro-hydraulic operation and electronic management operated by paddles behind the steering wheel, triple cone synchronisers 1st and 2nd, and double cone on 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th.
Asymmetrical limited-slip differential (25% under acceleration, 45% on lift-off), hypoid bevel gear pair, final drive 3.73 (11/41).
Dry twin-plate clutch, diameter 215 mm (8.46 in) with flexible couplings and hydraulic control.
I've driven both and FWIW, I prefer the CambioCorsa.
SMG:
http://www.m3smg.com/
http://www.audi.com/audi/com/en1/new...d_details.html
CambioCorsa (Maserati/Ferrari....single clutch):
Cambiocorsa transmission with electro-hydraulic operation and electronic management operated by paddles behind the steering wheel, triple cone synchronisers 1st and 2nd, and double cone on 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th.
Asymmetrical limited-slip differential (25% under acceleration, 45% on lift-off), hypoid bevel gear pair, final drive 3.73 (11/41).
Dry twin-plate clutch, diameter 215 mm (8.46 in) with flexible couplings and hydraulic control.
I've driven both and FWIW, I prefer the CambioCorsa.
SMG:
http://www.m3smg.com/
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BTW, the delay in DSG/PDK has been with long term reliability at the elevated HP/Torque levels of the TT......in other words, they've been blowing up.
In other words, those who love to mod/tinker, this might not be the best choice, at least initially.
In other words, those who love to mod/tinker, this might not be the best choice, at least initially.
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Originally Posted by magwheel
How does the DSG differ from BMW's SMG and from a Ferrari F1 and Lamborghini E-gear?
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I agree with ///Mous3. I've driven SMG and DSG and the former is crap and the latter is great. The SMG is jerky, harsh, and doesn't rev-match as well as my feet do. The DSG is quick, smooth and matches revs up or down. The way I see it if the high-tech stuff isn't as good as my feet I'm not paying for it.
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Porsche have always been very quick to point out that they were the ones that in fact pioneered the technology now known as DSG. It was dubbed PDK ("Porsche Double Klutch") and used on the old 956/962 and Pikes Peak racecars. Bit of a pisser that other companies have beat Porsche to actually making the technology commercially viable, but then again the VW Group has much deeper pockets to invest in something like that. The next generation Mitsubishi Evo is also supposed to get its own version of DSG/PDK.
While i've only ever tried Ferrari's F1 and BMW's SMG, every journo review of DSG compared to F1/SMG seems to have DSG coming out roses. We know now not to treat magazine reviews as bible truth, but where there's smoke there's fire...
As has been pointed out, DSG may not be so mod-friendly however...
Now a GT3 with DSG...
While i've only ever tried Ferrari's F1 and BMW's SMG, every journo review of DSG compared to F1/SMG seems to have DSG coming out roses. We know now not to treat magazine reviews as bible truth, but where there's smoke there's fire...
As has been pointed out, DSG may not be so mod-friendly however...
Now a GT3 with DSG...
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Originally Posted by hesperus
Now a GT3 with DSG... ![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Correct me if I am wrong.
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DSG has three modes really.
One is normal driving, one for sport driving where it holds the revs higher and fully manual.
I love this gearbox for my daily driver, but it is too sanitised, too good for a sportscar. I would never spec it in a car that I wanted to drive for fun.
One is normal driving, one for sport driving where it holds the revs higher and fully manual.
I love this gearbox for my daily driver, but it is too sanitised, too good for a sportscar. I would never spec it in a car that I wanted to drive for fun.
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Originally Posted by ///Mous3
Correct me if I am wrong.
Now, the VW spin might have 'safer' parameters baked into the the electronics. Cannot say.