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Alapor 05-10-2019 05:14 PM

Need Serious Help, 997tt been down for a month!
 
I have some serious tranny issues. I am desperately looking for a part. It is the shifter sleeve, part number 997-304-081-50. Porsche is not making it anymore as they are looking for a new producer for it. It could be a year before I get one from the factory. So pissed. Can anyone hook me up or point me in the right direction? Oh yeah, one other thing, supposedly there is an Audi match for it too, but I can not cross reference the number.

Brainz 05-10-2019 05:39 PM

ECS lists it on their web page - not sure if it's in stock: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...e/99730408150/

Bxstr 05-10-2019 06:33 PM

Since it says 4 business days on the ECS site, they are most likely getting it from a parts supplier so if it isn't being made anymore then you probably won't be able to get it. It is pretty common where you go to order something and then they will tell you they can't get it for you.

I am the Walrus 05-10-2019 06:49 PM

https://www.sunsetporscheparts.com/o...ve-99730408150

https://parts.porschelivermore.com/o...ve-99730408150

Maybe email them, see if in stock

Alapor 05-10-2019 07:45 PM

Called both last week. Don't have it, can't get it and not sure when they will be able to.

Alapor 05-10-2019 07:46 PM

Pelican does not have it either. No dealer does.

Catorce 05-10-2019 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by Alapor (Post 15832162)
I have some serious tranny issues. I am desperately looking for a part. It is the shifter sleeve, part number 997-304-081-50. Porsche is not making it anymore as they are looking for a new producer for it. It could be a year before I get one from the factory. So pissed. Can anyone hook me up or point me in the right direction? Oh yeah, one other thing, supposedly there is an Audi match for it too, but I can not cross reference the number.


If all that is the case, you could have someone make the part. We could probably make it on our 5 axis, but it would not be cheap with all those splines.

saabin 05-10-2019 10:53 PM

Is this part internal to the tranny? Any chance you could find a used one from a wrecked car?

Alapor 05-11-2019 10:23 AM

Yeah, shifter sleeve for tranny internals

32krazy! 05-11-2019 05:54 PM

call rader motorsport in vegas

Kevin 05-11-2019 11:38 PM

and or Brian Copans BM&G he might have the part.
If they don't, you might need to buy a used 997TT tranny/ and 996TT box would also work.
I wonder if Porsche has a reman exchange gearbox?

911.Forever 05-12-2019 01:09 AM

I've picked up odd parts from LA Dismantlers in the past. no affiliation.

Hueneme997 05-12-2019 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by 911.Forever (Post 15834841)
I've picked up odd parts from LA Dismantlers in the past. no affiliation.

Just picked up my steering wheel module from there for my updated steering wheel last week. Cool place with tons of 911’s there. Although they only had 2 997 TT’s while they have tons of parts, I’d give them a call

Alapor 05-14-2019 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 15834709)
and or Brian Copans BM&G he might have the part.
If they don't, you might need to buy a used 997TT tranny/ and 996TT box would also work.
I wonder if Porsche has a reman exchange gearbox?

That is where it is right now. lol

32krazy! 05-14-2019 05:57 PM

call bill rader. if anyone has the part it will be him

fredo-turbo 05-29-2019 02:57 PM

hello, I am in France, I have the same problem, I have to change the ballaster 997-304-081-50, not available at porsche, the supplier with whom they worked does not do this piece, they have to find another supplier .... I try to find this room elsewhere but I can not find anything. I contact the customer service Porsche I wait for their return, I hope it will make things happen

Alapor 05-30-2019 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by fredo-turbo (Post 15873105)
hello, I am in France, I have the same problem, I have to change the ballaster 997-304-081-50, not available at porsche, the supplier with whom they worked does not do this piece, they have to find another supplier .... I try to find this room elsewhere but I can not find anything. I contact the customer service Porsche I wait for their return, I hope it will make things happen

I have called every dealer and supplier in North America as well as some other countries. It does not exist in North America. Porsche can not or will not say when it will be available, couild be years. After 5 Porsches, this is my last one since the company could care less about those who buy their cars. I had a machinist clean my old one up good enough to use for a while.

fredo-turbo 05-30-2019 03:58 PM

I'm really disappointed ... my 97tt is currently in the garage, dismantled box waiting for the famous piece. cold for the first few kilometers the 1 and the 2 are hard to pass, after 2 or 3 kilometers no problem. it's been a month and a half that we ordered for the piece, I think we'll go back like that



Hueneme997 05-30-2019 04:09 PM

Could you get a machinist to make one?

Alapor 05-30-2019 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Hueneme997 (Post 15875782)
Could you get a machinist to make one?

I got some quotes, more than a new tranny, if you can find one.

fredo-turbo 05-30-2019 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by Alapor (Post 15875806)
I got some quotes, more than a new tranny, if you can find one.


do you have what symptoms on your turbo to change this piece?



Alapor 05-30-2019 06:10 PM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...243abd20ad.png

Originally Posted by fredo-turbo (Post 15875855)
do you have what symptoms on your turbo to change this piece?

1st and second synchors blown out. Won't downshift into 1st or 2nd without grinding. Here are three of them. First one is mine, 2nd is a 996 version that will not work and 3rd is an Audi that will not work.

Duckstu 05-30-2019 11:05 PM

I don't know if any of these are what you need,... but I have some spare used parts from my 2007.

I had Brian Copans install a Porsche Billet Cup LSD in my trans 16 months ago, and while he was in there I had him take a look at second gear. No grinding when shifting up or down,.. but it was harder to shift from first to second than it was from first to third,.... especially when cold.

He said the syncros were fine,... but the edges of the teeth on that ring thing were slightly worn on the one side. So I just had him replace everything to be sure.

The 1-2 shift was only slightly improved when I got it back, which was dissapointing,.... but at least I know that's just how it's supposed to be.

Not sure if this is what you need, or if a worn use part is of interest.

I didn't see any numbers on the ring thingy.

The trans had about 26,000 miles on it when these were removed.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7914cd6a45.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6f1de9acf4.jpg

Duckstu 05-30-2019 11:15 PM

The ends of the teeth in the first pic are the good side,.. and the teeth in the second pic are the ones that have the worn edges.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...fbe9848df1.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b9c0721113.jpg

Ok,.. so now I'm just messing around. Got the old Nikon 990 twist-body out.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...706a6a193a.jpg

Alapor 05-31-2019 08:56 AM

Mine is already back together and being installed this week. Thanks for the offer, if it does not work I will be in touch. Thanks!

fredo-turbo 05-31-2019 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Alapor (Post 15877216)
Mine is already back together and being installed this week. Thanks for the offer, if it does not work I will be in touch. Thanks!

How did you do it? did you find one?



Alapor 05-31-2019 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by fredo-turbo (Post 15877262)
How did you do it? did you find one?

No, my transmission specialist took my old one to a machinist and they cleaned up the teeth and ring. He said it was on the cusp of what he had seen that is repairable. When we could not find one in North America or Europe, he went ahead and tried to do the repair. Said it came out much better than he thought and should be fine. He benched tested it and it was fine, so, with a little luck, I am good to go. For how long, I do not know. I was not going to sit around for possibly 1-2 years for Porsche to start making the part again.

I do have a case open with Porsche USA. They were going to try and find a definitive answer on why the part is not available and when it would be. Said they would call back today, but they have said that before.

I am so pissed with Porsche right now. This is not an older 911, it was a 2007 997 tt. Same ring used through all years till 2012. So, everyone who has a 997 tt is sitting on a potential failure that will park your cars for possibly years. It is also not a super rare failure, I have heard from 997 tt owners world wide about it. So, while it sucks to be me right now, it could suck to be any 997 tt owner tomorrow with a manual tranny.

Brainz 05-31-2019 12:54 PM

Good info. Hope you get it sorted.

fredo-turbo 05-31-2019 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Alapor (Post 15877621)
No, my transmission specialist took my old one to a machinist and they cleaned up the teeth and ring. He said it was on the cusp of what he had seen that is repairable. When we could not find one in North America or Europe, he went ahead and tried to do the repair. Said it came out much better than he thought and should be fine. He benched tested it and it was fine, so, with a little luck, I am good to go. For how long, I do not know. I was not going to sit around for possibly 1-2 years for Porsche to start making the part again.

I do have a case open with Porsche USA. They were going to try and find a definitive answer on why the part is not available and when it would be. Said they would call back today, but they have said that before.

I am so pissed with Porsche right now. This is not an older 911, it was a 2007 997 tt. Same ring used through all years till 2012. So, everyone who has a 997 tt is sitting on a potential failure that will park your cars for possibly years. It is also not a super rare failure, I have heard from 997 tt owners world wide about it. So, while it sucks to be me right now, it could suck to be any 997 tt owner tomorrow with a manual tranny.

I hope that it will go for you with this piece repaired, I was offered this piece of 996 turbo telling me that it is the same, but Porsche told me that it is not the same reference. I do not know if I go back with my damaged part or take it to a machinist. I do not want to wait 1 year .... sorry for my english but I use google translate, I'm french ;-) in fact the wear on this piece is very light, it's the garage that told me to change it. my problem is only cold for 2 or 3 kilometers, the 1 and the 2 are hard to get in, and the 1 is hard to get out. When I am stopped, no problem is driving even at low speed. a garage told me about the clutch stop, I do not know what to think ....

fredo-turbo 05-31-2019 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Alapor (Post 15877621)
No, my transmission specialist took my old one to a machinist and they cleaned up the teeth and ring. He said it was on the cusp of what he had seen that is repairable. When we could not find one in North America or Europe, he went ahead and tried to do the repair. Said it came out much better than he thought and should be fine. He benched tested it and it was fine, so, with a little luck, I am good to go. For how long, I do not know. I was not going to sit around for possibly 1-2 years for Porsche to start making the part again.

I do have a case open with Porsche USA. They were going to try and find a definitive answer on why the part is not available and when it would be. Said they would call back today, but they have said that before.

I am so pissed with Porsche right now. This is not an older 911, it was a 2007 997 tt. Same ring used through all years till 2012. So, everyone who has a 997 tt is sitting on a potential failure that will park your cars for possibly years. It is also not a super rare failure, I have heard from 997 tt owners world wide about it. So, while it sucks to be me right now, it could suck to be any 997 tt owner tomorrow with a manual tranny.



I hope that it will go for you with this piece repaired, I was offered this piece of 996 turbo telling me that it is the same, but Porsche told me that it is not the same reference. I do not know if I go back with my damaged part or take it to a machinist. I do not want to wait 1 year .... sorry for my english but I use google translate, I'm french ;-) in fact the wear on this piece is very light, it's the garage that told me to change it. my problem is only cold for 2 or 3 kilometers, the 1 and the 2 are hard to get in, and the 1 is hard to get out. When I am stopped, no problem is driving even at low speed. a garage told me about the clutch stop, I do not know what to think ....

fredo-turbo 05-31-2019 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Alapor (Post 15877621)
No, my transmission specialist took my old one to a machinist and they cleaned up the teeth and ring. He said it was on the cusp of what he had seen that is repairable. When we could not find one in North America or Europe, he went ahead and tried to do the repair. Said it came out much better than he thought and should be fine. He benched tested it and it was fine, so, with a little luck, I am good to go. For how long, I do not know. I was not going to sit around for possibly 1-2 years for Porsche to start making the part again.

I do have a case open with Porsche USA. They were going to try and find a definitive answer on why the part is not available and when it would be. Said they would call back today, but they have said that before.

I am so pissed with Porsche right now. This is not an older 911, it was a 2007 997 tt. Same ring used through all years till 2012. So, everyone who has a 997 tt is sitting on a potential failure that will park your cars for possibly years. It is also not a super rare failure, I have heard from 997 tt owners world wide about it. So, while it sucks to be me right now, it could suck to be any 997 tt owner tomorrow with a manual tranny.



I hope that it will go for you with this piece repaired, I was offered this piece of 996 turbo telling me that it is the same, but Porsche told me that it is not the same reference. I do not know if I go back with my damaged part or take it to a machinist. I do not want to wait 1 year .... sorry for my english but I use google translate, I'm french ;-) in fact the wear on this piece is very light, it's the garage that told me to change it. my problem is only cold for 2 or 3 kilometers, the 1 and the 2 are hard to get in, and the 1 is hard to get out. When I am stopped, no problem is driving even at low speed. a garage told me about the clutch stop, I do not know what to think ....

fredo-turbo 05-31-2019 04:16 PM

I hope that it will go for you with this piece repaired, I was offered this piece of 996 turbo telling me that it is the same, but Porsche told me that it is not the same reference. I do not know if I go back with my damaged part or take it to a machinist. I do not want to wait 1 year .... sorry for my english but I use google translate, I'm french ;-) in fact the wear on this piece is very light, it's the garage that told me to change it. my problem is only cold for 2 or 3 kilometers, the 1 and the 2 are hard to get in, and the 1 is hard to get out. When I am stopped, no problem is driving even at low speed. a garage told me about the clutch stop, I do not know what to think ....

Alapor 05-31-2019 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by fredo-turbo (Post 15878126)
I hope that it will go for you with this piece repaired, I was offered this piece of 996 turbo telling me that it is the same, but Porsche told me that it is not the same reference. I do not know if I go back with my damaged part or take it to a machinist. I do not want to wait 1 year .... sorry for my english but I use google translate, I'm french ;-) in fact the wear on this piece is very light, it's the garage that told me to change it. my problem is only cold for 2 or 3 kilometers, the 1 and the 2 are hard to get in, and the 1 is hard to get out. When I am stopped, no problem is driving even at low speed. a garage told me about the clutch stop, I do not know what to think ....

A 996TT will NOT work, has to be a 997 tt one. The Audi one is identical, except for the clutch fork seat. It can not be modified to work, we tried. If it is not bad, see if you can get someone to clean it up, reinstall, and see if it works. Better than the car sitting there collecting dust.

fredo-turbo 06-01-2019 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Alapor (Post 15878304)
A 996TT will NOT work, has to be a 997 tt one. The Audi one is identical, except for the clutch fork seat. It can not be modified to work, we tried. If it is not bad, see if you can get someone to clean it up, reinstall, and see if it works. Better than the car sitting there collecting dust.



I have just been told about GBOX, they are specialist gearbox porsche, they are in Colorado. you know ? I wait for them to answer me, I sent them an email to know if they can help me ... ;-)

fredo-turbo 06-01-2019 01:08 PM

I have just been told about GBOX, they are specialist gearbox porsche, they are in Colorado. you know ? I wait for them to answer me, I sent them an email to know if they can help me ... ;-)

fredo-turbo 06-01-2019 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Alapor (Post 15878304)
A 996TT will NOT work, has to be a 997 tt one. The Audi one is identical, except for the clutch fork seat. It can not be modified to work, we tried. If it is not bad, see if you can get someone to clean it up, reinstall, and see if it works. Better than the car sitting there collecting dust.

I have just been told about GBOX, they are specialist gearbox porsche, they are in Colorado. you know ? I wait for them to answer me, I sent them an email to know if they can help me ... ;-)

fredo-turbo 06-02-2019 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by Alapor (Post 15878304)
A 996TT will NOT work, has to be a 997 tt one. The Audi one is identical, except for the clutch fork seat. It can not be modified to work, we tried. If it is not bad, see if you can get someone to clean it up, reinstall, and see if it works. Better than the car sitting there collecting dust.

I have just been told about GBOX, they are specialist gearbox porsche, they are in Colorado. you know ? I wait for them to answer me, I sent them an email to know if they can help me ... ;-)

fredo-turbo 06-02-2019 04:42 AM

I have just been told about GBOX, they are specialist gearbox porsche, they are in Colorado. you know ? I wait for them to answer me, I sent them an email to know if they can help me ... ;-)

fredo-turbo 06-02-2019 04:44 AM

I have just been told about GBOX, they are specialist gearbox porsche, they are in Colorado. you know ? I wait for them to answer me, I sent them an email to know if they can help me ... ;-)

fredo-turbo 06-02-2019 04:45 AM

I have just been told about GBOX, they are specialist gearbox porsche, they are in Colorado. you know ? I wait for them to answer me, I sent them an email to know if they can help me ... ;-)

fredo-turbo 06-02-2019 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by Alapor (Post 15878304)
A 996TT will NOT work, has to be a 997 tt one. The Audi one is identical, except for the clutch fork seat. It can not be modified to work, we tried. If it is not bad, see if you can get someone to clean it up, reinstall, and see if it works. Better than the car sitting there collecting dust.

I have just been told about GBOX, they are specialist gearbox porsche, they are in Colorado. you know ? I wait for them to answer me, I sent them an email to know if they can help me ... ;-)

fredo-turbo 06-02-2019 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Alapor (Post 15878304)
A 996TT will NOT work, has to be a 997 tt one. The Audi one is identical, except for the clutch fork seat. It can not be modified to work, we tried. If it is not bad, see if you can get someone to clean it up, reinstall, and see if it works. Better than the car sitting there collecting dust.

I have just been told about GBOX, they are specialist gearbox porsche, they are in Colorado. you know ? I wait for them to answer me, I sent them an email to know if they can help me ... ;-)


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