ca86108

Hello,

I have a few questions for those of you who have experience with PCCB's. This is my first car with ceramic brakes so I am not that knowledgeable. The car is a 2012 Turbo S.

1. Are there any aftermarket options for brake pads? All I can find are OEM and they are 600 for front and 600 for rear.
2. Do brake pads for pccb last longer or the same as pads for steel rotors?
3. How do you know when your breaks are going? I have done about 10 canyon runs and I am starting to hear some squeals at low speeds. Is it a dumb move to wait until the brake pad indicator light comes on?

If you know of any aftermarket brake pads for cheaper, please post links. Thanks

o7silverturbo

Just stick with the oem pads and yes they are not cheap.

If you dont want to be replacing rotors which if you thought pads were a lot dont look up rotor prices, you should be replacing your pads at 50% pad life. If you run them lower than that you take a risk of damaging the rotors.

The rotors on PCCB are "life time" if you maintain your pads

dz997 tts

about how many miles @ 50 % pad life (easy driving ,no track time ) ? thanks

o7silverturbo

Hard to say really. You have you inspect them. I believe new thickness is 12mm so discard around 5-6mm. You can get pad thickness tool at your local auto parts store

Im sure Ill get flamed for saying replace at 50% but this will keep your rotors in top shape and you will get the most life out of them. I also think Porsche wants you to flip the pads at some point but I might be mistaken

If you are running PCCB this is the cost of running them.

nzskater

Can't really measure by miles - too variable. People drive differently and are harder or easier on brakes. Best way to measure is thickness.

If it was me I'd replace before the wear sensors triggered - the thinner the pad the more heat they put in to the rotors, and PCCB are not cheap.

Consider Pagid's ceramic safe pads, although I have no experience the steel equivalent are excellent.

Johnny DB

I also replace at ~50%...

cyclrder

how many miles on the car?
I think that the PCCBs can be noisy in some cars (mine are quiet though) so that isn't an indicator of needing to change. I'm under the impression that these pads will last a lot longer than pads in a steel system.... and the rotors if taken care of the lifetime of the car?

Johnny DB

Mine are noisy and I replace the pads at ~ 50%

Big Swole

Usually a good high pressure wash quiet mine down for a bit.

997TTEQNY

As others have said..

PCCBs are not a place to be budget minded when it comes to pads.

Change them well before they are due (50% isnt a bad idea)

and yes, they are noisy.... I dont mind it .. reminds me I drive a machine with ***** that stops on a dime!

Domer911

mine have 20,000 miles on them and they've been noisy since I got the car (5,000 miles)

Needsdecaf

Looking at a used Turbo with PCCB’s. What’s the measurements of pads and rotors that I should be looking at?

Jl889

I'd say at least greater than 6mm. However its about 1k-1.5k to change front and rears so you can just ask for deduction if they are at 3mm-4mm.

Nate Tempest

I have no experience with PCCB's, but I would think that like steel brakes, building up a transfer layer by running a bed-in procedure should help with noise. Check pad thickness first of course.

Info on bedding in PCCBs here: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...procedure.html

Kevin

The problem is the "rear" pads vs the front pads. This is due to the stability control applying rear braking. The rear pads tend to wear as a taper. It is the inner pad that you can't see. If you measure the outer pad and think that your are good, you can have the rear inward pad backing plate contact the ceramic rotor. This happens more than we'd like or admit.
Call the discount Porsche dealers (Sonnen/Mill Valley Porsche) and chalk it up as paying the Ceramic Tax.. Which is a lot cheaper than a $5500 rotor..