JuanVR

So as many of you know, manual 997.2 Turbos in manual are hard to find, which is a reason as to why it would be better to get into a .1 as they are easier to find due to larger production numbers. In addition to that theres the new DFI engine, updated exterior and interior and so. The question is, when is getting a .2 in manual worth it? I myself like the .2 looks as it holds the test of time better and the .1 looks have began to somewhat age. Would it be better to just update the looks on a .1 car(i.e get the new bumper, steering wheel, etc) and be done with it?

Thanks to everyone who reaches out in advance.

Edit: i apologize for the typo in the title, I meant to say "or for the DFI"

Big Swole

.1 Coolant Pipe engine out Fix!!!

997.2 TT it is!!!



I wanted a TTS and was okay with the PDK, so I made the choice on the .2 for just about every reason there was (PDK, 530hp, No coolant pipe issues, updates inside and out, etc.)

JuanVR

Didn't know that the DFI was more reliable than the Mezger.

Nebz911

Big Swole

So, No coolant pipe and cam issues to have to pull engine / tranny to fix.
Plenty of DFI's making stupid amounts of power and turning mid / high 8's in the 1/4 and being daily driven.
Pretty dang good track record for being very reliable.

Not sure I'd say "A step down" man. Maybe a "side step" at best.
I know the all mighty Mezger is way over built and it's history and all, but the DFI is certainly holding it's own.

Nebz911

Cam issus? ....the mezger is not THAT much more expensive then the "side step DFI" because it is rare or has race heritage. BTW the DFI is amazing....just not on par with a mezger....this is not from me..this is from porsche...hence why the price or "value" of a mezger will always be more. You are left with PDK if you want auto, if you don't then it gives no value. Update navigation and front bumper is really what you are looking at when comparing manuals.

Big Swole

Cam gear... Don't some have an issue with something to do with the cam / gear (can't remember exactly the issue, but seen / herd it talked about.).

I wanted the PDK due to it being quicker. I'm a drag racer at heart and love out right acceleration. LOVE a manual too and will have another some day, but for now, the TTS is the one.

JuanVR

So it would be better to just get a .1 and get the updated rear bumper for it?

Nebz911

Big Swole

Here's an Awesome 2009 997.1 (.2 updates)



https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...ver-black.html



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MexicoBlueTurboS

Swole is right - in my view a PDK is like an extra S for whatever you're driving. Almost impossible to get a Range 3 over rev and it's not a 'wear' item. Over a 200k mile lifetime, one could have 3-5 clutch changes at several thousand each... or one PDK covered by warranty.

In summary, faster, more reliable, cheaper. What's not to like ?

pfbz

IMHO, if you are ok with PDK, 997.2 is the obvious choice.

But a manual transmission Mezger Turbo coupe is a special beast and will remain that way for many, many years to come, whereas most 997.2 Turbo PDK owners would happily transition to a 991 Turbo PDK and never look back.

No, I wouldn't pay the huge premium for a rare DFI non-Mezger Turbo 997.2 with a six speed.

Radmd74

So bottom line is this ranking. Top being the most desirable.

1) Mezger TT engine 07-09. Manual.
2) DFI engine. 09-12. Manual.

So from what I am hearing is that the Mezger is more "valuable" but the DFI TTs are going for higher prices because of its
relative scarcity? But the true form of the 997 TT remains the Mezger?

JuanVR

I live in Toronto, and on Autotrader(Canadian) a local Volkswagen dealer has for sale an '11 997.2 Turbo Manual. Solid colour combo(black on black), no ceramics, but has the adaptives. It has 46,000km and they want $152K CAD. Meanwhile the .1 manual Turbos are going for about 90K-100K CAD. I guess it explains the rarity. Essentially, with $50K, it is possible to obtain and install the updated rear bumper on a .1. Adding to this, a used set of the Turbo II
wheels shouldn't cost much. A risky one(dont know if it would work properly) would be obtaining the .2s PCM unit(shoudnt be expensive just the installation is the concern). Do all of this and you have the perfect 997 Turbo!!!!

Edit: forgot to mention, an updated steering wheel shouldnt be a problem to install as well.

Radmd74

Just curious and want to to know if the Mezger has overall better reliability and "value" in the long run versus the DFI on the 0.2TTs?

Probably hard to answer since the low production#'s of the .2 TTs keep it at a higher price point regardless of the engine " value."

Thoughts?